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re: "Nick Saban no fan of no-huddle offenses, asks 'Is this what we want football to be?'"

Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:29 pm to
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So, he brought Kiffin in with the singular mission to mesh his West Coast offense with a no huddle, matchup specific system. And that's what Kiffin did.



And then pushed him out so he could ultimately take credit for it himself. Typical Saban.

Oh well, Karma caught up with him in the 2016 title game so I guess it's water under the bridge now.
Posted by AndyWoods
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:30 pm to
Hahaha, I know. I was kidding, but he still seems like a decent guy.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:30 pm to
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And then pushed him out so he could ultimately take credit for it himself


He pushed out Lane Kiffin after Kiffin had already gotten a head coaching job and been the center of roughly 75 puff pieces about being an offensive genius to........take credit for the offense?

Wut?
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:34 pm to
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He pushed out Lane Kiffin after Kiffin had already gotten a head coaching job


C'mon really? Not even you can be THIS naive about the actual timeline of things.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:36 pm to
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C'mon really? Not even you can be THIS naive about the actual timeline of things.





So you think that Saban told Kiffin to find a new job knowing he'd then push him out before the title game all so he could then claim credit for.......the offensive system?
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:41 pm to
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So you think


What I think has nothing to do with anything.

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Saban told Kiffin to find a new job knowing he'd then push him out before the title game


Fact.

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all so he could then claim credit for all of Alabama's offensive success the previous 3 years


FIFY
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:42 pm to
I mean I agree Kiffin was told after the SECCG it was time to find a new job. I don't quite agree with the purpose of it, nor does it make much sense, and I certainly don't agree Saban knew he'd suck against Washington so he could fire him before Clemson?
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:45 pm to
You really don't think Saban wanted him gone well before that? OK, enjoy your fantasy world.
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Wut?


ahh, you know how these dorks are. They'll say anything just to try to irritate Alabama fans. Their team can't beat Alabama so they'll take what little they can get.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
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You really don't think Saban wanted him gone well before that?


I think he decided the relationship had run its course at some point during the 2016 season, yes.

I don't think he planned to fire him between playoff games until the Washington game, no.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Welp. I tried to help you out. Give you a starting point.


No worries, the South Carolina guy answered the question directly. I don't do Reddit.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:51 pm to
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And then pushed him out so he could ultimately take credit for it himself. Typical Saban.


KennesawTiger, no offense but you sound insane.
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:54 pm to
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I don't think he planned to fire him between playoff games until the Washington game, no.




that, imo, was one of Saban's biggest mistakes. I think Kiffin would have at least been good for one more decent drive, and one less 3 and out, in that game. That would have precluded Clemson scoring in the last second.
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:55 pm to
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KennesawTiger, no offense but you sound insane.


just slinging shite against a wall, hoping to irritate Bammers
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:57 pm to
Unsurprisingly, SOG speaks to the actual context of what was said with stats to back it up. Still a rant superstar...
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:58 pm to
Facts are insane? OK.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:59 pm to
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Isnt Les Miles refusing to change with the times the reason yall wanted him fired?



correct

but the point is that maybe don't make statements like

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'Is this what we want football to be?'"


and then do that exact thing that you seem to abhor
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:01 pm to
It's called adapting.

Something LSU didn't do and it's why they are now Bama's bitch.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:03 pm to
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and then do that exact thing that you seem to abhor



Yep. Because he didn't really care for the way football was changing, he should have just sat back and let offenses pass him by. Like Les.

Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:04 pm to
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but the point is that maybe don't make statements like

quote:
'Is this what we want football to be?'"



and then do that exact thing that you seem to abhor


no. The point is that Saban tried to get the ncaa to change certain rules that favored that type of offense. When he was unsuccessful at getting enough other support, he said screw it, and adapted his offensive philosophy to take advantage of it. As previously noted, it's the kind of thing successful coaches do.
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