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Posted on 4/3/11 at 5:49 pm to bbap
Most all campuses are really nice, I will say I was underwhelmed by MSU's but its not ugly. Now I went to Texas Tech my freshman year, that place looks like shite half of the year.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 5:50 pm to Marines4Auburn
Really? TTU has done a lot of work on their campus and although not the greenest, it seems really nice (I applied there and looked there for a little while.).
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:04 pm to tigerbait2010
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Really? TTU has done a lot of work on their campus and although not the greenest, it seems really nice (I applied there and looked there for a little while.).
Yeah it is very dry, flat and not much vegetation or foliage. I partied a lot there but overall TTU and Lubbock sucked.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:05 pm to Tolbert1906
Arkansas definitely doesn't have the "old southern" thing going on. The architecture is definitely collegiate, but not the old south style like you see on most SEC campuses. But thats to be expected because the Ozarks aren't really "old south", either.
Arkansas's campus looks like it belongs in the Big 10 if I had to pick a conference with campuses having the same general architectural feel. I think Old Main was based on a similar building at the University of Illinois.
Arkansas's campus looks like it belongs in the Big 10 if I had to pick a conference with campuses having the same general architectural feel. I think Old Main was based on a similar building at the University of Illinois.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:23 pm to wmr
I'd also like to say that architecture in Fayetteville tends to be more responsive to the idea of views and the natural environment than in a lot of cities.
We don't have a lot of old southern mansions. Fayetteville is way more about the Craftsman cottages as far as old and quaint. There's also a lot of homes and buildings like these below which are designed to take advantage of living on hillsides and having big ole views all around.
I love architecture, btw.
We don't have a lot of old southern mansions. Fayetteville is way more about the Craftsman cottages as far as old and quaint. There's also a lot of homes and buildings like these below which are designed to take advantage of living on hillsides and having big ole views all around.
I love architecture, btw.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:36 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Alabamas my favorite, and I dont really have a least favorite. As someone else said, no SEC campus is a bad campus.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:56 pm to wmr
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arkansas belongs in the big 10
That's agreeable
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:10 pm to Tolbert1906
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Tolbert1906
Thanks for linking that, I needed to check my email
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:18 pm to wmr
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Arkansas definitely doesn't have the "old southern" thing going on. The architecture is definitely collegiate, but not the old south style like you see on most SEC campuses. But thats to be expected because the Ozarks aren't really "old south", either.
Arkansas's campus looks like it belongs in the Big 10 if I had to pick a conference with campuses having the same general architectural feel. I think Old Main was based on a similar building at the University of Illinois.
Um, I completely disagree.
Lets just get some facts straight first.
1. Old Main's South Tower was supposed to be larger to represent the South in the Civil War. However, it was changed by a Yankee so now the North Tower stands slightly taller. Did you even go to Arkansas (You learn this Day 1)
2. Arkansas is older than Vanderbilt and Mississippi State.
3. Have you seen Tennessee compared to Arkansas? Both in the mountains.
The new Chancellor's house below models part of the original old southern style from over a century ago.
Do know the Union Army occupied and burned a few buildings in Fayetteville during the Civil War?
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:52 pm to SunHog
Geez... yet another my university's dick is bigger than your university's dick thread. Football season couldn't get here soon enough...
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:14 pm to BradPitt
Arkansas
Just a few beautiful southern sorority houses.
KKG house
ZTA House
KD house
Chi O
AOP
A very old home right off Campus.
Just a few beautiful southern sorority houses.
KKG house
ZTA House
KD house
Chi O
AOP
A very old home right off Campus.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:20 pm to SunHog
My eyes just exploded from the awesomeness that is Arkansas...all hail
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:30 pm to Supravol22
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My eyes just exploded from the awesomeness that is Arkansas...all hail
Tennessee be founded in 1794 is extremely weak in this category.
Hail to the Flagship!
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:32 pm to SunHog
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Tennessee be founded in 1794 is extremely weak in this category.
I'm a student at UT right now, and our new Business, Computer Science, and Law buildings are the shite. But our frat houses are shitty you got us there.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:50 pm to SunHog
Yes, I am alum of Arkansas. That story is a theory, and its not clear if its true or not that the switch actually happened. That's the common story, though.
I'm still not clear how that theory paints the University of Arkansas as "old south" since the Yankees got their way on the tower.
The sorority and fraternity buildings that you posted are somewhat southern, but they aren't much different than frat houses around different parts of the country.
Here's a sorority at Indiana University, for example:
Is that "southern"?
I was referring more the the general campus architecture, which is definitely not in any kind of "old south" Greek-revival style like what is featured throughout much of the SEC.
And I am very aware of Fayetteville's history in the Civil War. There were civil war battles fought in Pennsylvania and Missouri, too.
While you're condescending to me about local history, are you aware that one of the reasons the University of Arkansas was granted as the Land Grant location was due to the area being less than 100% loyal to the South in the Civil War? In fact, most of North and Western Arkansas state senators voted against secession. It was the Eastern and Southern counties (which held most of the money and power in those days) that pulled Arkansas into the fray.
I'm still not clear how that theory paints the University of Arkansas as "old south" since the Yankees got their way on the tower.
The sorority and fraternity buildings that you posted are somewhat southern, but they aren't much different than frat houses around different parts of the country.
Here's a sorority at Indiana University, for example:
Is that "southern"?
I was referring more the the general campus architecture, which is definitely not in any kind of "old south" Greek-revival style like what is featured throughout much of the SEC.
And I am very aware of Fayetteville's history in the Civil War. There were civil war battles fought in Pennsylvania and Missouri, too.
While you're condescending to me about local history, are you aware that one of the reasons the University of Arkansas was granted as the Land Grant location was due to the area being less than 100% loyal to the South in the Civil War? In fact, most of North and Western Arkansas state senators voted against secession. It was the Eastern and Southern counties (which held most of the money and power in those days) that pulled Arkansas into the fray.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:08 pm to wmr
Anything built after 1910 isn't the "Old South" because after that time frame the labor became more expensive and you couldn't afford to have attention to detail for next to nothing.
85% of SEC campuses barely have anything "Old South" left.
Anything built with beautiful balconies, decks, columns and painted white (greek revival) would constitute replicating "Old South". Arkansas fits right into that category.
Not one school can afford to build a REAL "Old South" plantation house because of the $$$. No one would spend it for one house.
Almost every school in the SEC has at least 1 or 2 of these "Old South" houses. It's surprising school like Tennessee and Kentucky do not have more than Arkansas which they do not. It's the natural progression of population shift westward in the early 1800's.
As I stated before Fayetteville lost buildings during the Civil War which would've been on campus. The grave site behind the Kappa Sig Fraternity house is full of Confederate soldiers.
You act like Fayetteville is in Colorado with your posting. I've almost never seen a house like that in Northwest Arkansas in my life. Is there of course but I could post weird looking houses from every single southern city.
Also, I thought this was stuck on campus not surroundings.
P.S. it's extremely simple to understand how the Yankees got their way on the tower. It's called reconstruction money. If you wanted it you listened, end of story. Plus, you believe after the North won they would let Arkansas build the south tower taller, ha.
It was a total slap in the face to the state of Arkansas and the south which still stands today.
History my man it's all that matters.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:16 pm to wmr
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While you're condescending to me about local history, are you aware that one of the reasons the University of Arkansas was granted as the Land Grant location was due to the area being less than 100% loyal to the South in the Civil War? In fact, most of North and Western Arkansas state senators voted against secession. It was the Eastern and Southern counties (which held most of the money and power in those days) that pulled Arkansas into the fray.
Exactly, the money and influence went to NWA because it was a Union strong hold long after the war. No one in their right mind would put the University of Arkansas in the Northwest corner of the state that's beyond stupid and explains the north tower.
As for the senators only 1... Yes, 1 person voted to stay in the Union. I'll find the link. Arkansas seceded to the confederacy before Tennessee and North Carolina while Kentucky never even joined.
Arkansas State Vote
69 for the Confederacy
1 for the Union
LINK
"Arkansas then joined the Confederacy on May 6th. The state convention had met at Little Rock and had voted 69 to 1 for secession."
"The Alabama delegation had met in Montgomery and had voted 61 to 39 for secession."
"Mississippi held a convention in Jackson to consider secession. Delegates voted 84 to 15 to secede from the Union."
"Louisiana met in Baton Rouge on January 26th and voted 113 to 17 for secession."
"Tennessee had held a statewide election and had rejected secession by a vote of 68,282 to 59,449. But with Lincoln’s call for more volunteers, the Tennessee State Convention met at Jackson. Delegates voted 66 to 25 for secession."
Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi and sure as heck Tennessee had more trouble rallying their states than Arkansas on percentage.
Don't let facts get in your way but continue on.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 11:40 pm to SunHog
Actually, Arkansas initially rejected secession by a 39-25 vote, split roughtly NW to SE against and for. Only after the war had begun did Arkansas reluctantly secede. It was only after the war had begun, and Arkansas naturally sided with its closest neighbors. Had we not, we would have been war enemies of our closest and more populous neighbors immediately. Arkansas did not secede until it had basically no other choice.
The final vote was more about preserving Arkansas than anything else. You could almost consider it a vote to stay together and defend our East Arkansas brothers, or split Virginia-style. There was a movement back then to create a new state out of southern Mo and Northern Ark because those regions saw their interests as more similar than to the other ends of their respective states.
That doesn't change the fact that the architecture of the campus is largely not "southern" in the way that a lot of other SEC campuses are. The primary influence on the old architecture on campus has always been Collegiate Gothic style which tries to mimic the architecture of Oxford and Harvard.
LSU has their Italianate architecture that really isn't traditionally "southern" either. I think both are beautiful.
And if Fayetteville is such a part of the "old south", how do you explain that the NWA Metro is almost 500k people and still less than 2% African American?
There was probably never a single "southern style" plantation within 200 miles of Fayetteville. That's just reality. I think aping traditional ante-bellum plantation architecture would be kinda lame anyway. Its not who we are.
The final vote was more about preserving Arkansas than anything else. You could almost consider it a vote to stay together and defend our East Arkansas brothers, or split Virginia-style. There was a movement back then to create a new state out of southern Mo and Northern Ark because those regions saw their interests as more similar than to the other ends of their respective states.
That doesn't change the fact that the architecture of the campus is largely not "southern" in the way that a lot of other SEC campuses are. The primary influence on the old architecture on campus has always been Collegiate Gothic style which tries to mimic the architecture of Oxford and Harvard.
LSU has their Italianate architecture that really isn't traditionally "southern" either. I think both are beautiful.
And if Fayetteville is such a part of the "old south", how do you explain that the NWA Metro is almost 500k people and still less than 2% African American?
There was probably never a single "southern style" plantation within 200 miles of Fayetteville. That's just reality. I think aping traditional ante-bellum plantation architecture would be kinda lame anyway. Its not who we are.
This post was edited on 4/4/11 at 12:12 am
Posted on 4/3/11 at 11:49 pm to RebelWriter
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