re: New Forde and Thamel article speculating on which BBall programs get hit

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Maybe because it was a public case and they pretty much gave an OJ verdict?

Are you trying to say that Auburn somehow did such a great job in this investigation over all others that it was said rather than some PR move?

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What remote piece of evidence is there that anything transpired at Auburn except bama fan's dreams?

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I haven't lived in Alabama in nearly 20 years, so don't know what you're talking about honestly.

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I am talking about you continually bringing talking points in here that are not facts. Just like you chastised someone for "rewriting history"...

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But I notice you aren't really replying with anything of substance

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I am talking about you continually bringing talking points in here that are not facts. Just like you chastised someone for rewriting history...

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And yet you never actually name anything that is said or offer anything in response to prove where I'm wrong.

Hell you guys can't even admit that Cecil Newton was shopping him around. Even Auburn in their own report mentions that. In fact, it's their entire defense. Instead I have to listen to shite like Miss St made it up and/or was the ones that offered.

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And yet you never actually name anything that is said or offer anything in response to prove where I'm wrong.

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You made an incorrect statement. I said that was incorrect. What more do you want?

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Hell you guys can't even admit that Cecil Newton was shopping him around.

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What other schools besides State did Cecil shop him to? again, just like pretty much everyone one of your points have no merit based in fact behind them

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Even Auburn in their own report mentions that. In fact, it's their entire defense. Instead I have to listen to shite like Miss St made it up and/or was the ones that offered.

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The report says Cecil and Rogers asked a booster for money to go to state. They also stated this only was with state, nothing to do with AU. Rogers also a state explayer. Yet, you think Auburn, Auburn, Auburn...

So you are saying there is no evidence , but it happen? There was no contradictory testimony , but they lied ? Their were no witness to any of the illegal activity, but it happened anyway. Do you believe we landed on the moon?

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Except they didn't. Because there was nothing there.

You just made the point. They didn't get busted.

You also just slipped up and got way too obvious with your trolling in that post

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I doubt you'll find easy money in the accounts of very many players who got paid. Did they also check to see if there were any names on the incoming checks?

Exactly how does one go about making a $180k cash deposit?

Did you ask him for a paystub too?



You guys are funny.

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You made an incorrect statement. I said that was incorrect. What more do you want?

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If you just want to make claims without backing them up, that's fine. I'll never take them seriously, but whatever.

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What other schools besides State did Cecil shop him to? again, just like pretty much everyone one of your points have no merit based in fact behind them

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Auburn obviously. You know, the whole reason Miss St was pissed and reported you.

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The report says Cecil and Rogers asked a booster for money to go to state. They also stated this only was with state, nothing to do with AU. Rogers also a state explayer. Yet, you think Auburn, Auburn, Auburn...

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Pretty sure the report says that Cecil was shopping Cam. It was the Auburn finding, it was the NCAA's finding as well.

The reason Auburn got away with it was plausible deniability as they claimed Cam didn't know about it. And for some reason, nobody on the Auburn side piped up to say they paid him.

And the result of all this was a new NCAA rule to close that loophole. If the same thing happened today, Cam Newton wouldn't play.

Auburn fans don't even want to admit Cecil was shopping him around. Because the rest of what happened is pretty fricking obvious to anyone with common sense, regardless of how much proof of the activity the NCAA was able to find.

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You know, the whole reason Miss St was pissed and reported you

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Because they couldn't even pay a highly ranked out of state recruit to live in Starkville

Troll on, homie. You're doing solid work

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Because they couldn't even pay a highly ranked out of state recruit to live in Starkville

Troll on, homie. You're doing solid work

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So when they testified to the FBI that Cecil approached them, they were lying to the FBI?

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I doubt you'll find easy money in the accounts of very many players who got paid. Did they also check to see if there were any names on the incoming checks?

Exactly how does one go about making a $180k cash deposit?

Did you ask him for a paystub too?

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So we should take the work of ATPB as evidence? The fact is that there was no evidence that Cecil Shopped Cam to any school EXCEPT MSU.


The N.C.A.A. said it conducted 50 interviews in the Newton investigation, which centered on a pay-for-play scheme. The N.C.A.A. acknowledged last fall that Newton’s father, Cecil Newton, shopped his son to Mississippi State for nearly $200,000. But the N.C.A.A., after going through bank records, I.R.S. statements, and phone and e-mail records, could find no proof that Auburn paid for Cam Newton’s services.

“It was also determined that Mr. Newton and university representatives were not aware of that activity,” said Jackie A. Thurnes, an associate director of N.C.A.A. enforcement, in a letter to Auburn regarding the shopping of Newton by his father.

The news brought a sigh of relief from the Southeastern Conference office, which was widely criticized for withholding information on the Newton case for months, and from Auburn, which gets to keep its national championship.
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“The NCAA enforcement staff is committed to a fair and thorough investigative process,” the NCAA said in a statement. “As such, any allegations of major rules violations must meet a burden of proof, which is a higher standard than rampant public speculation online and in the media. The allegations must be based on credible and persuasive information and includes a good-faith belief that the Committee on Infractions could make a finding.
“As with any case, should the enforcement staff become aware of additional credible information, it will review the information to determine whether further investigation is warranted.”


The documents offered some insight into Rogers' dealings with Mississippi State representatives John Bond and Bill Bell.

Bond indicated that Rogers, who operated Elite Football Preparation for prospective college athletics, told him he was just trying to get Newton to play for his former school and they "just had to make it happen." Bell also told the NCAA Rogers didn't give him any indication that Newton knew about the efforts to collect money.

"There is no information suggesting that Rogers had similar discussions about a cash inducement with any other institution, either directly or indirectly," one joint Auburn and NCAA document stated.