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re: New ESPN investigative report on the murder of Jamea Harris/Brandon Miller situation.

Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62350 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:29 pm to
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My issue is she picked up a guy who had visibly been shot, drove him to Miles' apartment, and then was complicit in the lie Miles told to police. Most reasonable people in her position would have done things such as drive Davis to the hospital, report he had been shot to police after they got the car out of the area, etc. I'm not saying she's 100% culpable, but IMO there are more red flags around her involvement than there are for Miller's involvement, yet the girlfriend has barely been referenced at all and never had been until the ESPN article to my knowledge.


You're right. She definitely seems like an accomplice.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71174 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:29 pm to
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And an illegal possession of a firearm charge is off the table as well, cause no way ole boy knew someone else’s gun was inside his car??

Alabama is a constitutional carry state. Illegal possession of a firearm wouldn’t apply absent things such as prior convictions, protection orders, etc affecting that right. Anyone over the age of 18 can carry a firearm now without a permit who aren’t otherwise restricted
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62350 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Again, no one knows Miller's intent except for Miller, no one can say if he's innocent or guilty.



Of course we can. Everyone in this country is innocent until proven guilty. So, by definition, he's innocent.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:36 pm to
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Well she wasn’t even called to testify at the prelim or referenced in the police reports. They don’t care about clicks. Just seems odd


Maybe she didn't see it happen and didn't know who shot first and just believed/assumed Davis was defending himself.

Hell it may even end up being determined by the jury that he was.

I mean the other guy had a gun too, and Miles supposedly saw it. And then the Jeep pulled up to them.

I think what does them in either way is Davis approaching the Jeep.

What they should have done is gotten in Bradley's or Miller's car and left.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:52 pm to
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What they should have done is gotten in Bradley's or Miller's car and left.
Seems so easy and multiple lives aren’t ruined.
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4439 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Everyone in this country is innocent until proven guilty. So, by definition, he's innocent.



no, presumed innocent. And the law determines intent all the time with circumstantial evidence, direct evidence being almost always unavailable
Posted by iconucon
St. Louis
Member since Jan 2018
1260 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:04 pm to
I learned virtually nothing new about Miller from that story. So I still don't know whether he read the text asking him to bring the gun before he arrived at the scene.
Posted by iconucon
St. Louis
Member since Jan 2018
1260 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:14 pm to
Do you know they have these things called touchscreens in these newfangled cars now where, if you have your phone plugged in or set on blue tooth, your texts show up on the touchscreen?

It's not difficult at all to believe that Miller could have read that text at a stoplight or even while driving while he was on the way.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:19 pm to
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It's not difficult at all to believe that Miller could have read that text at a stoplight or even while driving while he was on the way.


It's not difficult at all to believe he didn't read it or didn't know Miles was serious or understand the severity of the situation either.

Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
7880 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:21 pm to
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At least it seems like he has grandparents who are willing to raise him as their own. Hopefully that's enough to keep him from being another statistic.


Agreed on this point. That grandma sounded like a badass and member of the old guard. I respected what she said, including her disdain for the way UA handled this situation with the victim's family. I agree with her fully on that and would feel the same way as her.


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I think he deserved to be charged, but I also think he has a plausible defense. I find it hard to believe a jury will convict him of capital murder. I wouldn't be shocked to see him plea down to lesser charges.



Yeah, I bet he pleas down as well. I'm not entirely sure on all the particulars of these laws in Alabama, so when I said he "deserved" to be charged, I was largely referring to my informal, non-legal assessment that he had simply done enough to be charged with something regarding his role in this crime. He had just a critical role in the entire escalation of this crime, and had plenty of time to cool-off and de-escalate. He chose to do the exact opposite of that.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
7880 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:30 pm to
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A woman lost her life because some idiot men did idiot things



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speaking of


Not sure what you find controversial about calling those dumbasses "idiots," but ok. This just seems like one of the rare times when we should all be able to agree on something.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
3114 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:32 pm to
To reasonably believe that Brandon Miller thought Darius Miles was going to get his gun, hand it to Davis and that Davis was going to shoot someone in the face is ludicrous. It’s disingenuous and asinine.

Miller had no context what was going on… even if he did read the text. We don’t know if he read it, but we do know when it was sent and when the guy in the Jeep left the scene , drove blocks away and called the police.

7 minutes.. it all happened within 7 minutes of the text. So Miller was either about a block away or just pulling up. The Jeep wasn’t even on the scene yet.

It’s stupid at this point to believe that Miller was aware or a party to what eventually happened.

Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 3:59 pm to
Seems like premeditated murder, no?

Yo bring me my gun, this nga be faking. = imma bout to bust a cap in this fool, bring me my gun

This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 4:00 pm
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
3114 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:02 pm to
You must have access to a different text.. and the guy that sent it didn’t “bust a cap” on anyone… lol
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:05 pm to
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. and the guy that sent it didn’t “bust a cap” on anyone…
naw, he just handed it to the other guy and told him to handle his business. Pow pow
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
3114 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
So they should put him in jail.. wait.. they did!
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:24 pm to
I remember when espn focused on sport scores and not to make news.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:49 pm to
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If you cant see the difference, I don't know what to tell you


Karen runs on emotion, not logic.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34199 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:49 pm to
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Karen runs on emotion, not logic.


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31652 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:09 pm to
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That isn't true at all.

I'm fairly neutral on the topic.

I don't even follow basketball.


Again, no one knows Miller's intent except for Miller, no one can say if he's innocent or guilty.


I'm sure we could judge your neutrality of this case based on the number of posts you've contributed 3-4 weeks.


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