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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:13 pm
at UGAs 40 with 1:36 and had first and ten down by 6. Did Kelly panic and passed the ball on every play from then on ? UGA was blitzing on every down and a hand off could have resulted in a big play. I like what he has done to build the program back, but I have seen too many times that he isn't the best game day coach.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:14 pm to
They just weren't able to execute. ND had the opportunity to win. That was a hard fought game. It's difficult to second guess because the mistakes weren't obvious. Georgia just stepped up when they had to.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:16 pm to
They really hadn't run the ball the entire game. I don't think they had a single run > 10 yards.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:16 pm to
Yep. Qb had no time and no open receivers
Posted by Dude88
Member since Sep 2019
744 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:20 pm to
A run that ends short of the first down marker uses 30 seconds of clock.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:25 pm to
ND had a total of 46 yards rushing even with Book being considered a threat to run. The entire gameplan was built on forcing ND to throw
Posted by E.Hubble
Athens
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:25 pm to
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A run that ends short of the first down marker uses 30 seconds of clock


This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:26 pm to
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They really hadn't run the ball the entire game. I don't think they had a single run > 10 yards.



Just watched the last 2 min on the SECN, UGA was blitzing from the outside every play. There wasn't a defender within 15 yards in the middle. UGA wasn't even disguising it, but ND didnt check into a run or a QB draw.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:29 pm to
What we saw is what has cursed Notre Dame for more then a decade. When they can run the ball, they can't pass it. When they can pass the ball, they can't run it.

Despite what some will say, who are eager to bury the Farting Irish, this was not a bad Notre Dame team by any stretch of the imagination. They just didn't have the oomph to beat a major SEC team in a major game.

I suspect they will have a fine season this year. They won't make the CFP, but they will probably do quite well thank you. Saying that you can't beat one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC is hardly an insult.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:38 pm to
Could have been a good time for a screen pass as well.

As said earlier, easy to 2nd guess now. They went to matchups they liked on the outside, where they had big receivers/TEs to throw to. It didn't work out.

The announcers kept acting like there was 10 seconds left with 90 seconds left at the 40. "No timeouts they gotta move now" not really. 90 seconds left is plenty of time to run 8 plays or so especially with incomplete passes/out of bounds plays

Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:42 pm to
ND had no run game all day and you expected him to trust it suddenly with the game on the line?

I mean..a screen could have been a good option but running was not an option.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51491 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:58 pm to
ND starters are as good as any. It's UGAs depth that was the difference. ND look tired in the second half. Still, they had a chance to win at the end there. Tough loss, for sure.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30075 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:01 pm to
Georgia was 13 points better. Should have been more.
Posted by reservoir_dawg
Member since Nov 2012
280 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:01 pm to
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at UGAs 40 with 1:36 and had first and ten down by 6. Did Kelly panic and passed the ball on every play from then on ? UGA was blitzing on every down and a hand off could have resulted in a big play. I like what he has done to build the program back, but I have seen too many times that he isn't the best game day coach.


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Just watched the last 2 min on the SECN, UGA was blitzing from the outside every play. There wasn't a defender within 15 yards in the middle. UGA wasn't even disguising it, but ND didnt check into a run or a QB draw.


I'm not sure if you're trolling or being serious. Or just don't know what you're watching?

2:00 left - 1st and 10 - 4 down lineman, no blitz, MLB covers the Tailback who catches a pass along the right sideline for a 3 yard gain.

1:37 left - 2nd and 7 - did blitz a CB from the boundary and Book made us pay with a completion to the voided area. No reason to run the ball in this situation.

1:33 left - 1st and 10 - 2 MLBs blitz, no outside blitz/pressure, Book throws it away with defenders closing on his face quickly

1:29 left - 2nd and 10 - Notre Dame tries to catch the middle linebackers blitzing again and runs a middle screen or option route to the tailback, tackled immediately by one of the middle linebackers for a yard gain. 4 man rush, no blitz or pressure package called from anywhere.

1:03 left - 3rd and 9 - 4 man rush, no blitz/pressure. 2 MLBs in the middle of the field - one clearly assigned the TE and covers him, the other clearly assigned the RB and creeps up a little bit to close ground on the tailback, but doesn't ever engage anyone along the line of scrimmage or rush

58 seconds left - 4th and 9 - first of all, no way you can run the ball in this scenario. as for the play, we stand up an OLB in the middle and rush him in the B gap. 4 man rush, no additional blitz/pressure. One MLB is really our nickle who drops back to cover the deep middle, another fans out to the flat to Book's right.

So what the heck are you talking about? You couldn't have actually watched it and had any idea about football and come to the conclusions that UGA blitzed every play, that UGA blitzed from the outside every play, or that there weren't defenders within 15 yards of the middle of the field.

Just weird to make those sorts of claims when there is actual video proving them 100% false.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

at UGAs 40 with 1:36 and had first and ten down by 6. Did Kelly panic and passed the ball on every play from then on ? UGA was blitzing on every down and a hand off could have resulted in a big play. I like what he has done to build the program back, but I have seen too many times that he isn't the best game day coach.




Maybe a little panic, but they did not run the ball on us very well at all. 46 yards all night and 3.3 ypc. They had to score, and I don't think they had any timeouts left. (I could be wrong about this)

I get what you are saying, though. We were probably set back ready for the pass....maybe a run could have gotten some yards. If not, though, it would have been ballgame with no TOs left.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:06 pm to
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I don't think they had a single run > 10 yards.


Longest rush was for 9 yards by Book.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:09 pm to
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As said earlier, easy to 2nd guess now. They went to matchups they liked on the outside, where they had big receivers/TEs to throw to. It didn't work out.


Claypool was killing it. I probably would have been going to him and the TE. Hard to blame them for that...they were open and moved the ball the first half going to the TEs. We shut them down at the half, and it opened up Claypool.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:14 pm to
You sir are not smart.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Could have been a good time for a screen pass as well.

As said earlier, easy to 2nd guess now. They went to matchups they liked on the outside, where they had big receivers/TEs to throw to. It didn't work out.

The announcers kept acting like there was 10 seconds left with 90 seconds left at the 40. "No timeouts they gotta move now" not really. 90 seconds left is plenty of time to run 8 plays or so especially with incomplete passes/out of bounds plays



The play that was called wasn't the problem. The QB failing to recognize the blitz was the factor. Again, after the LOS, I couldn't see anyone within 15 yards in the middle. Time is not a factor in the College game. If they had ran the ball inside the the 30, the first down would have stopped the clock and worse case ND spikes the ball just under 60 seconds left. Then the dynamics of the D changes. Safeties have to protect the endzone, corners have to protect the sidelines, and that leaves the middle for LBs. That would have reduced the blitz or set up a quick pass over the middle.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:17 pm to
46 total yards running the ball
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