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Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:28 am to Alahunter
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different time
Umm, no. More than Means. I know you know the link for the rulling. go read it. It was three recruits and I think 16 or 19 major violations
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:28 am to Alahunter
quote:I think it is pretty debatable. Based on the known information (not what reasonable people suspect is true), I think the NCAAs decision makes sense. Although, I certainly understand the skepticism. If the argument is that the NCAA has punished others based on what they suspected rather than what they knew, you may be right.
NCAA dropped the ball on this and there is no way around that.
The Means case seems to have a lot of differences, including the fact that money indeed changed hands. If money had changed hands in the AU case, even if it was a rogue booster that the school had no knowledge about or control over, AU would be in USC territory or worse.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:30 am to parkjas2001
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Pretty sure our coaches recruiting him played a part in that.
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Newton let his father make the final decision, and a few days before Christmas, while sitting at the dinner table in his brother's house in Jacksonville, Cecil Sr. uttered two words that would radically alter the college football landscape: "It's Auburn."
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:32 am to WDE24
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If the argument is that the NCAA has punished others based on what they suspected rather than what they knew, you may be right.
They knew his dad was given permission to choose where he went to school. They knew his dad solicited money for his play. It's pretty clear cut that his dad acted as an agent on Cam's behalf, whether money was exchanged or not, he should have been ruled ineligible at ANY school Cecil had a part in choosing.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:32 am to Alahunter
Guess Gus went all the way out there for nothing then.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:33 am to Alahunter
quote:They also have a clearer and better understanding of agency than you do, so that probably explains the dissonance here.
They knew his dad was given permission to choose where he went to school. They knew his dad solicited money for his play. It's pretty clear cut that his dad acted as an agent on Cam's behalf, whether money was exchanged or not, he should have been ruled ineligible at ANY school Cecil had a part in choosing.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:34 am to Alahunter
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They knew his dad was given permission to choose where he went to school. They knew his dad solicited money for his play. It's pretty clear cut that his dad acted as an agent on Cam's behalf, whether money was exchanged or not, he should have been ruled ineligible at ANY school Cecil had a part in choosing.
Does this mean ineligible for the entire career? Because doesnt the same interpretation state any benefits recieved means ineligible, at any school?
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:34 am to Alahunter
quote:So he gave him the authority after the solicitation, not before. Thus Cecil wasn't his agent at the time of the solicitation. Good to know.
Newton let his father make the final decision, and a few days before Christmas, while sitting at the dinner table in his brother's house in Jacksonville, Cecil Sr. uttered two words that would radically alter the college football landscape: "It's Auburn."
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:35 am to Alahunter
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And his high school coach did not send him to the other school. Cecil did send Cam to another after being a party to the other.
Money also exchanged hands.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:35 am to WDE24
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They also have a clearer and better understanding of agency than you do, so that probably explains the dissonance here.
No. It's the NCAA. That explains the difference in how they interpret things. When they break their own bylaws to nail one school, while allowing ineligible players to play in a Bowl game in another case. It's not surprising to see them drop the ball in Auburn's case.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:36 am to WDE24
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WDE
ISWYDT
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:38 am to WDE24
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Newton let his father make the final decision, and a few days before Christmas, while sitting at the dinner table in his brother's house in Jacksonville, Cecil Sr. uttered two words that would radically alter the college football landscape: "It's Auburn."
So he gave him the authority after the solicitation, not before. Thus Cecil wasn't his agent at the time of the solicitation. Good to know.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:38 am to WDE24
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:38 am to Alahunter
Hunter isn't taking names today, he is just lining them up one by one and executing them with the facts. SBB is on a roll !!
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:40 am to Alahunter
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while allowing ineligible players to play in a Bowl game in another case
FWIW, I read somewhere that a few years ago they had actualy made this a rule. Allowing players who commited minor infractions to play in post season, in team sports, as not to hurt the team
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:40 am to memphisplaya
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Hunter isn't taking names today, he is just lining them up one by one and executing them with the facts.
Is he out of bubble gum
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:40 am to memphisplaya
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Hunter isn't taking names today, he is just lining them up one by one and executing them with the facts. SBB is on a roll !!
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:40 am to WDE24
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Once money changes hands, it doesn't matter. The NCAA has said that from day 1.
I wonder how much money Langham got? Hmmm...
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:41 am to bamascott2
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