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NCAA rule against Confederate Flag and bids question

Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:37 am
Does anyone know what the rule prohibits? Is it specifically states with Confederate Flags or all states that have any reference to the CSA in their meaning? With the announcement of the flag being removed from the state grounds, the NCAA issued this statement:

"We commend South Carolina lawmakers for taking this action to remove the Confederate flag from the Capitol grounds," Kansas State president and NCAA board of governors chair Kirk Schulz said in a statement. "For nearly 15 years we have specifically protested the flag by not allowing states like South Carolina to host pre-selected NCAA championships. With this impending change, and consistent with our policy, South Carolina may bid to host future NCAA championships once the flag no longer flies at the State House grounds."

This leaves Mississippi as the only state that flies the "Confederate Flag" on it's state grounds and the only state banned from bidding on NCAA championships. Although Arkansas is not currently banned, I'm curious if they should be.

"In 1923, the legislature added a fourth star, representing the Confederate States of America. This fourth star was originally placed so that there were two stars above the state name and two below; this was to include the Confederacy alongside Spain, France, and the United States. Since this disturbed the other two meanings of the original three stars, the legislature corrected this in 1924 by placing the Confederate star above "ARKANSAS" and the original three stars below it, as it is today.

In 1987, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”"

Congrats Arky, you have beat the system
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:46 am to
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“The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”"
Buncha racists.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:51 am to
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Congrats Arky, you have beat the system

That's just because Bill was the GOAT politician

The man literally got away with saying "that depends on what your definition of 'is' is"

That's some jedi mind trick shite
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:26 am to
Alabama's state of arms shows the flags of the 5 governments the state served under, including the Confederacy.

Posted by wmr
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:26 am to
The Arkansas flag, along with several other southern state flags, has some confederate tendencies. It hasn't ever been used by hater-group-jerks. That's really the litmus test for flag banning in 2015.

In the future, maybe our flag will be the target of SJWs. Only time will tell.

Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:29 am to
The official patch the Alabama state troopers wear.



More than likely these will be changed in the future.
Posted by Bama54
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:36 am to
If Alabama is going to have a reference to the o CUSA on our seal it should be an actual official flag, not this one whic was hijacked by the KKK and segregationists.
Don't understand the reference to "heritage" as this flag was the battle flag of Northern VA. The only thing it has to do with Alabama's heritage is to glorify the KKK and segregation

Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:48 am to
Why not just fly the Bonnie Blue?

Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:50 am to
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In 1987, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”"


Had it been a Republican who signed that Arkansas would be banned too.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:54 am to
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If Alabama is going to have a reference to the o CUSA on our seal it should be an actual official flag,


This is the flag that should be on Alabama's coat of arms.



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The first official national flag of the Confederacy, often called the "Stars and Bars", was flown from March 4, 1861 to May 1, 1863. It was designed by German/Prussian artist Nicola Marschall in Marion, Alabama and resembles the Flag of the Austrian Empire (later Austria-Hungary, now the Republic of Austria), with which Marschall would have been familiar. The "Stars and Bars" flag was adopted March 4, 1861, in the first temporary national capital of Montgomery, Alabama, and raised over the dome of that first Confederate capitol.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:08 am to
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In 1987, Bill Clinton signed Act 116 that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”"



Have you ever heard of the KKK? Their appropriation of the flag is the main reason it's unacceptable. A lot of states have confederate elements displayed in their flags, but none say "we enslaved, terrorized, and murdered your ancestors" quite like the battle flag does.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18910 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:08 am to
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jatebe


Yep, my mother is from Marion and I have seen the historical marker and display over at Marion Women's Seminary a hundred times. Thanks for finding that bit
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:29 am to
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Why not just fly the Bonnie Blue?




The first state flag is very popular in Oxford. If Mississippi were smart, we'd go back to it. Pays homage to our civil war history without being inflammatory, is aesthetically pleasing, and is not a hate symbol.
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:36 am to
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The first state flag is very popular in Oxford. If Mississippi were smart, we'd go back to it. Pays homage to our civil war history without being inflammatory, is aesthetically pleasing, and is not a hate symbol.


I have one flying at my house. Hopefully it catches on.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:45 am to
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Don't understand the reference to "heritage" as this flag was the battle flag of Northern VA. The only thing it has to do with Alabama's heritage is to glorify the KKK and segregation



You realize the Battle Flag was used throughout the Confederacy during the war, right?

And that Alabamians fought under it, including in the Army of Northern Virginia?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:47 am to
Aesthetically pleasing, and looks like a Toomers Oak after being rolled.

I like the current MS flag.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 10:48 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:48 am to
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Why not just fly the Bonnie Blue?


Big Red.

This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:42 am to
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If Alabama is going to have a reference to the o CUSA on our seal it should be an actual official flag


What does conference USA have to do with this.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:57 pm to
Since Nancy Pelosi is all about banning the Mississippi state flag at the Capitol Building, let's encourage her to also ban the racist California flag.

California Flag Controversy

Cal also needs to change their racist mascot.

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That frontier town was Sonoma, the land was California, and the rebels, American settlers spurred on by promises of help from U.S. Army Captain John Fremont. The rebel standard, the flag of the so-called California Republic, became the California State Flag. It's time California dump that flag, a symbol of blatant illegality and racial prejudice. Like the Confederate cross of St. Andrew, the Bear Flag is a symbol whose time has come and gone. When the Legislature voted to adopt the rebel standard as the state flag in 1911, California was in the grip of a racist, jingoistic fever. The measure was sponsored by Sen. James Holohan from Watsonville, a member of the Native Sons of the Golden West. This was an organization whose magazine, the Grizzly Bear, declared in the very issue in which it announced the introduction of the bill, “Close the public school doors to Japanese and other undesirables NOW! Close the doors through which aliens can legally own or lease the soil of California NOW!”
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 1:34 pm to
This will only get dumber because some progressives get their panties in a wad over anything and everything.
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