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re: NCAA pass 1 time transfer rule

Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:30 pm to
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In other words, if Saban wants it then SEC will allow it


You forgot to cry about the SEC offices being in Birmingham.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64507 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:34 pm to
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In other words, if Saban wants it then SEC will allow it

In other words, the SEC will have no choice but to allow it if everyone else is. It would be bad PR and a recruiting disadavantage if they don't allow it.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:44 pm to
Skippy you better be checking on your own backup QB...
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12220 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:46 pm to
Bama needs a punter, who has the best?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:52 pm to
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Bama may have to up the anty to keep qb's. I think that is where the biggest impact will be.


You are going to see players thrown into playing time before they are ready. Coaches will be forced to play players to keep them around.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:53 pm to
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This moron thinks it will help A1abana


Humor me a bit Willy, your statement implies this might possible hurt Alabama particularly Saban in general. Why exactly?

I could possibly see a running back or two transferring. I would worry more about Coach O trying to get Gilbert back with the one time transfer rule.


The old man made NCAA change 3 different recruiting rules because his cold War tactics. I think Alabama might just make it.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:56 pm to
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Skippy you better be checking on your own backup QB...
Why ? Because you said so ? No way LSU is gonna keep 4 qb's this season. Especially with a 5 star coming in next season.

I'm staying with my point. Qb is where the most turnover will happen.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Coaches will be forced to play players to keep them around.


Agree. The tail is now wagging the dog.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64507 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Qb is where the most turnover will happen.

Well, no shite. It's already where you see the most transfer turnover.

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The Athletic studied the careers of the top 50 high school quarterbacks who signed with FBS programs in the recruiting classes of 2014 through 2017 because those signees have all been in college for at least three years. So far, 57 percent of those QBs have transferred from the school they initially signed with. And that percentage will likely increase during this offseason.

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Based on these recent classes, if a top-50 QB signee doesn’t start one game in his first two years on campus, there’s an almost 75 percent chance he’ll end up leaving the program. And even if he does make a start in the first two years, there’s a nearly 45 percent chance he’ll still end up transferring. This is where college football is now.

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Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:03 pm to
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Power 5 is now the only competitive conferences


This has been the case for years
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:06 pm to
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You are going to see players thrown into playing time before they are ready. Coaches will be forced to play players to keep them around.




Much ado about nothing. Shitty coaches will do this. Good coaches will not. And they will benefit from receiving other talent anyway.

The sky isn't falling.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:07 pm to
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Well, no shite. It's already where you see the most transfer turnover.



Most qb's leave because they suck. Now good qb's can move on the next season. Especially if they're at a weaker school and want to move to the SEC or OSU/USC. We're talking about two different dynamics.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64507 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:14 pm to
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Most qb's leave because they suck

according to the data, most QBs transfer period
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We're talking about two different dynamics.

no we're really not. QB transfer rates have been a huge problem for a long time. The rates are just as bad for 4 and 5 star Qbs

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If it seems like high-profile quarterback recruits transfer at an unusually high rate, well, it's because they do. Using 247Sports' composite rankings, FOX Sports researched the careers of every Top 50 quarterback recruit that signed from 2011-14. Exactly half -- 100 of 200 -- transferred from their original school.


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from 2011-14, 45 of 96 four and five-star QBs -- 47 percent -- ultimately transferred. That's a 173 percent increase from 15 years ago. And the farther down the rankings you go, the higher the transfer rate. Among Top 50 QBs, 53 percent of three stars* transferred. And there will likely be more to come from the 2014 class.

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To put it another way: There is a better than 50 percent chance that the Rivals100 quarterback who signs with your favorite school will not end up playing quarterback at that school.

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What is also evident through the research is that more transfers should be expected. Eight of the top 10 pro-style quarterbacks and seven of the top 10 dual-threat quarterbacks in the 2014 class either transferred or switched positions.

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In the 2015 class, the numbers are even more staggering, as eight of the top 10 dual-threat quarterbacks went to another school, and one (Tulsa’s Chad President) retired from football, leaving only USC’s Sam Darnold as the only player who stayed at his school before leaving for the NFL. As the recruiting classes get closer to present day, fewer transfers have transpired, but they could be coming any day.

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Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Much ado about nothing. Shitty coaches will do this. Good coaches will not. And they will benefit from receiving other talent anyway.

The sky isn't falling.


All coaches will, or they will lose talent. Everyone will try to make the players happy over doing what is best for them.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16147 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:41 pm to
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WilliamTaylor21




You are one stupid SOB. Track the players who have signed with Alabama and left, see how well they've done at their next destination. Next, see how many made it to the NFL. Very few have done well after moving on.

Clowns like you are too stupid to get it. Good players WANT to go to Alabama. Good players stay and make it at Alabama. The scrubs who are too afraid or don't want to do the work it takes at Alabama commit elsewhere, leave early and frick up elsewhere, or never really amount to much in general.

BAMA has done very well for itself in the transfer portal for this very reason, and it will continue to do so because BAMA puts players in the league and wins championships. Every rule favors Alabama, because we're Alabama, and players want to go to Alabama.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:57 pm to
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no we're really not.
Yes we really are.

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And it will only get worse with the new rules put in place that allow four years of eligibility to remain intact even playing four games and how easy it appears to get instant approval for immediate eligibility from the NCAA.
Throw in that players can transfer with no threat of having to sit out now, it will only increase.

How many Mac Jones are you going to see ? Even less. The other side of the coin is a guy like Trey Lance can now move to a better conference without having to sit out. This is where I think it could get even more ugly. Big conference coach tells little conference coach if your guy is good, we have X amount waiting for you to steer him to us. I think recruiting will be even dirtier than it is now. You think LSU couldn't have been the beneficiary of this rule during the Miles regime ? Hell we got two but Mett was from junior college. Imagine if we could have replaced Jenkins and Harris so easily. Imagine if we could have picked off the Bama roster.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 7:01 pm to
Holy shite Lincoln Riley is way out ahead on this. Conventional recruiting is dead.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 7:12 pm to
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Conventional recruiting is dead.



I agree. The sticking point is going to be what the signing limit is. If it's still 25 then look for the power teams to sign 19-20 and bring in transfers.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64507 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:00 am to
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Yes we really are.

No, we’re not. QBs transferring has been a major issue for a decade. It will continue to be a problem. This new rule isn’t going to create that particular problem that already existed. The guys willing to ride the bench for 3-4 years like Mac Jones aren’t going to change their attitudes. The guys who don’t want to ride the bench can just transfer and play sooner now. When well over half of all top 100 QBs transfer already, it can’t get much worse than that. But now you’ll probably see a lot more of this at all positions.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:25 am
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23021 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:29 am to
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The sticking point is going to be what the signing limit is

This is interesting. We were having a discussion earlier in the week about basketball, with a limit of 13, and 1,300+ players currently in the portal.

With this and other open-eligibility issues carried over from COVID, they really need to take a look at these signing limits in the major sports.

Guess it will ultimately be a boon to JUCO, because there aren't enough spots for everyone as it already stands.
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