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Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:51 pm to
Could you explain this "passes defended" stat to me?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:54 pm to
INTs plus passes broken up, equals passes defended. It's a common stat, that is actively tracked. Not some random stat someone is trying to use to make an argument.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Could you explain this "passes defended" stat to me?


PD = PBUs + INTs
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
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Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:58 pm to
Ok so according to the stats provided earlier, Banks has 3 passes defended and 3 interceptions.
Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:06 am to
quote:

Ok so according to the stats provided earlier, Banks has 3 passes defended and 3 interceptions.


Milliner >>> Banks

14 >>>> 6


Statistically superior.

Draft experts agree with statistical data.

Overwhelming case convinces all but rampant MSU homers.

Welcome the the flat earth society MSU.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 12:08 am
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:06 am to
quote:

Ok so according to the stats provided earlier, Banks has 3 passes defended and 3 interceptions.


no he has 3 pbu and 3 int so 6 pass defended, he currently ranks 53rd in the country @ 1 per game and Milliner ranks 1st @ 2.8 per game
Posted by lsudaboss
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
843 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:08 am to
Jalen mills. True freshman!!!
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:10 am to
I looked up passes defended as a stat and the Internet said that inferior DB's rack up a lot of them.

What's the deal with that?
Posted by LBC
Member since Jul 2012
3370 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:13 am to
quote:

I looked up passes defended as a stat and the Internet said that inferior DB's rack up a lot of them.

What's the deal with that?

Because most QB's throw to WR's that are open. If Banks covers a guy well enough QB's won't throw to him, but if a guy sees an opening he'll throw it and it'll get broken up/picked.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:19 am to
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no he has 3 pbu and 3 int so 6 pass defended, he currently ranks 53rd in the country @ 1 per game and Milliner ranks 1st @ 2.8 per game


Looks like your boy is getting picked on.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:22 am to
quote:

UT running for 200 yards was not simply we allowed them to do it to stop them from passing. There had to be a weakness in the front 7 in order for them to accomplish that.


In that particular game, we got no pressure from our front 4(until we put Quay in in the 4th quarter). We were having to bring 5 or 6 on every play. This was why our rsFr MLB had an eyepopping stat line, because often he was the only one at home.

So, in essence, yes...selling out to stop the pass was in fact hurting our run defense... We generally play a balanced style of defense. This game was an exception to that rule...

That said, I'd be incredibly surprised if Quay doesn't start for us the rest of the year... I don't know how he is schematically in understanding our defense, but he is the best player on the field by a ridiculous amount when he's out there
Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
2157 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:40 am to
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Looks like your boy is getting picked on.


No, it looks like Dee is bitch slapping some QBs that are foolish enough to try to throw his way.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 12:45 am to
quote:

Looks like your boy is getting picked on.


2011 PD leader was drafted in the 6th round
2010 PD leader was an All American
2009 PD leader was drafted 5th round and All American
2008 PD leader was drafted 4th round and Rivals All American
2006 PD leader was drafted 1st round, All American and won Jack Tatum trophy
2005 PD leader was a Pro Bowl player
2003 PD leader was drafted 1st round and was a 2x Pro Bowl (deceased)
2001 PD leader was drafted 1st round and was a 8x Pro Bowl


Yeah, but PD just means nothing.

Carry on.
Posted by Hump
Member since Aug 2011
715 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:05 am to
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FlukerFlakes

To be fair, it's a decent stat, but it's impossible to use those stats to compare a season like Milliner is having to a season like Banks is having. Currently, QBs are so afraid of Banks that they'd prefer to throw to guys covered by Darious Slay, who's another really good CB that's racking up interceptions, or Corey Broomfield, also in the top 20 of active career interceptors. Or Nickoe Whitley, also in the top 20 of career interceptors, who happens to enjoy hurting people.

In baseball terms, Milliner is hitting tripples, while Banks is getting intentionally walked, in favor of throwing to guys that hit doubles and tripples. You can't use volume stats like PD to compare the two.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 2:08 am
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
8293 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 7:43 am to
No doubt. Milliner is racking up PD's because QBs keep throwing at him. QBs know not to throw at Banks, he'll pick that shite off. History has proven this. Banks is basically the receiver when QBs throw his way.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38382 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 7:50 am to
this shite is hilarious
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93768 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 7:53 am to
quote:

this shite is hilarious


I agree. The constant circle-jerk among Bama fans about their own players every single day has gotten humorous. But carry on though. It's not excessive. At all.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38382 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 7:54 am to
I'm sorry milliner is better than banks bro. Not my fault
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93768 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 8:01 am to
Where did I say otherwise?

TIA.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 8:03 am to
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Hump


MSST fans seriously have no idea how to handle having a decent player on their team. This is hilarious.
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