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re: Name one positive aspect of having Kalen Deboer as head coach
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:40 am to Draco Malfoy
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:40 am to Draco Malfoy
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His high school tenure doesn’t count
Bold statement from a school that had to puff up their coach and futiley try to hide his many failures by crowing about his division 5 championships.
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:42 am to PuertoRicanBlaze
Positive for Alabama or for the other programs? They probably would not be the same.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:44 am to PuertoRicanBlaze
He’s a stud.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:44 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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Bold statement from a school that had to puff up their coach and futiley try to hide his many failures by crowing about his division 5 championships
The interesting thing is Alabama fans have a problem if LSU fans bring up Kelly's Division II natties yet they brag about DeBoer's success at an even lower level.
Typical Bama hypocrisy.
But I do think DeBoer is a good coach, regardless.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:53 am to SidewalkTiger
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SidewalkTiger
I see you're recovering from your mid-life crisis.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:54 am to DawgsLife
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If Alabama does not beat Georgia handily it will say more about DeBoer than anything else.
DeBoer is a good coach, not a great coach
Bama is not good
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:58 am to SidewalkTiger
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That's definitely the glass half full view.
No, that's you sucking off Brian Kelly for the past 3 years and making excuses for him.
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The glass half empty view is that DeBoer's reputation is basically built off of one good year at Washington where all of the stars aligned perfectly. Every "big game" they had (sans Michigan) was vs a team with a bad to garbage pass defense and they were an elite passing team.
No, the year at Washington was just the latest example of him having success at every level and team he's ever coached at.
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A .667 winning percentage at Fresno State is solid but not especially notable, good turnaround in Year 1 at Washington but also lost to two unranked teams, doubtful that Alabama would have given him a look prior to 2023.
Didn't need him before 2023. Are you suggesting teams should ignore a coaches last year when hiring him?
Would Alabama have hired Nick Saban if not for his success at LSU? If we just went off his Michigan St and other records instead?
You're so fricking stupid.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:17 am to bamameister
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What a bunch of hypocrites. You people just brought in Hugh Freeze with a show cause because of name recognition. How's that working out? Not in your mind, I mean, actually on the field of play?
I am flattered you can equate Hugh to a Saban-like hire. Not likely though.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:27 am to TN Tygah
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LSU is a good school, not a great school
LSU is not good
What do you know, it works perfectly when I fixed it
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:28 am to jangalang
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I am flattered you can equate Hugh to a Saban-like hire. Not likely though.
I remember reading how he was going to end Saban.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:30 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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I remember reading how he was going to end Saban.
Saban couldn't hang
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:31 am to jangalang
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Saban couldn't hang
Brother Hugh is looking the same way these days.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:37 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
I dont know how we got to the topic of Hugh anyway. He wasn't and isn't a Saban kind of hire where you can just pay up and make your problems go away.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:46 am to jangalang
I understand, I wouldn't want to discuss it either.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:48 am to jangalang
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I dont know how we got to the topic of Hugh anyway. He wasn't and isn't a Saban kind of hire where you can just pay up and make your problems go away.
Saban wasn't a Saban hire when he was hired either.
Nobody called him the GOAT before he came to Alabama. He had 1 national championship at LSU, and followed it up with a 3 loss season before leaving to the NFL.
He actually got shut out and given the worst loss of his career while at LSU at the hands of Alabama, losing 31-0 in BR.
But he did have a history of improving every program he was at. And although not undefeated that year, he also had a NC. That was the only year he ever came close to having that kind of success in his entire career.
Nobody had the expectations he was going to win 6 NC at Alabama. I had the same expectation for him as any other coach - if they can win a single NC, I'm thrilled. Everything Saban did after 2009 was a bonus.
People claim he was a failed NFL coach, and that Alabama was crazy for making him the highest paid coach at the time.
So exactly what does a "Saban hire" look like?
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:52 am to 3down10
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So exactly what does a "Saban hire" look like?
NC in conference
great recruiting
solid work ethic
great coaching staff
not likely to go pro
Willing to push the envelope
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:53 am to Imber
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I hate to point this out as an LSU fan, but the point of the thread went over most of your heads.
Way over.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:55 am to jangalang
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NC in conference
great recruiting
solid work ethic
great coaching staff
not likely to go pro
Willing to push the envelope
Not sure why in conference matters for a NC.
Recruiting services did not exist when Saban was a coach at LSU, there weren't any rankings.
Everyone said Saban was going to leave yearly, same as likely to go pro.
I just think people are throwing a lot of hindsight on this. Nobody expected what happened to happen. You would have been laughed at by everyone, including Alabama fans, for even suggesting such a thing.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/27/24 at 12:02 pm to 3down10
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Not sure why in conference matters for a NC.
Well if you can hire someone that has already won a NC in conference they already have regional scouting/ connections networks in place.
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Recruiting services did not exist when Saban was a coach at LSU, there weren't any rankings.
Yes the services didnt exist to that extent, but coaches recruiting hard for HS players is not new. There are literally Bo Jackson recruiting stories
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Everyone said Saban was going to leave yearly
One time maybe but the rest were just to frick with you.
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just think people are throwing a lot of hindsight on this.
Not really. If you find someone that fits all of those ingredients that's a grandslam hire from day one today.
Bama might not have known they would rake in 33 billion in revenue from the Saban hire, but they were on the money.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/27/24 at 12:12 pm to DawgsLife
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It does seem a bit odd with Alabama's fans fascination with Georgia though.
We do a post about AU or LSU, and people lose their shite…”Bama has a game this weekend with UGa and has AU or LSU on their mind.”
Now a Dawg jumps in with the same bullshite.
Damn, we can’t win.
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