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re: MSU presents Bama a lot of problems
Posted on 10/21/12 at 2:55 pm to RMFTBama
Posted on 10/21/12 at 2:55 pm to RMFTBama
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Amazing that apparently everyone we have faced has had so many open receivers, yet apparently no one is capable of catching a ball anymore.
That is my point! And it's very true!
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 2:56 pm to darkhorse
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Have you beaten a top 25 team? NOPE!
Yes, actually, shite-for-brains. Michigan is ranked in the top 20 and we slammed them. You're next.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 2:57 pm to RMFTBama
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Yes, actually, shite-for-brains. Michigan is ranked in the top 20 and we slammed them. You're next.
LOL!! they ARE NOT RANKED! period!
Edit... They moved back into the polls this week.. Big whoop!
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:01 pm to RMFTBama
The biggest problem with facing Alabama's offense is that there is no weakness to make us play to.
If you take away the run, we'll pass it all over you. If you take away the deep ball, we'll dink and dunk it until you puke. If you play the pass, we'll run it down your throat. We're just as likely to have 4 receivers as two at any time. Our tight ends and our running backs can catch as well as most teams wide-outs and we're just as happy dumping the ball off the running back as we are throwing one down the sideline.
I don't care how good your defensive backfield is, unless your defense is as good as Alabama's, you aren't going to stop us. Alabama doesn't make mistakes, so the only way to beat us is to have equal or better players at EVERY position(which MSU doesn't), and to play mistake free football, which MSU hasn't.
Prediction: Bama 50 - Grinders 10
If you take away the run, we'll pass it all over you. If you take away the deep ball, we'll dink and dunk it until you puke. If you play the pass, we'll run it down your throat. We're just as likely to have 4 receivers as two at any time. Our tight ends and our running backs can catch as well as most teams wide-outs and we're just as happy dumping the ball off the running back as we are throwing one down the sideline.
I don't care how good your defensive backfield is, unless your defense is as good as Alabama's, you aren't going to stop us. Alabama doesn't make mistakes, so the only way to beat us is to have equal or better players at EVERY position(which MSU doesn't), and to play mistake free football, which MSU hasn't.
Prediction: Bama 50 - Grinders 10
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:03 pm to darkhorse
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LOL!! they ARE NOT RANKED! period!
Edit... They moved back into the polls this week.. Big whoop!
It's true what they say. You can't argue with stupid.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:03 pm to RMFTBama
Would you rather be 7-0 against these teams?
#53 scoring offense, #16 scoring defense
#46 scoring offense, #54 scoring defense
#68 scoring offense, #87 scoring defense
#116 scoring offense, #90 scoring defense
#42 scoring offense, #64 scoring defense
#90 scoring offense, #59 scoring defense
#37 scoring offense, #96 scoring defense
or these teams?
#65 scoring offense, #84 scoring defense (FCS)
#118 scoring offense, #55 scoring defense
#63 scoring offense, #62 scoring defense
#109 scoring offense, #77 scoring defense
#109 scoring offense, #93 scoring defense
#37 scoring offense, #96 scoring defense
#58 scoring offense, #81 scoring defense
Fact 1: Mississippi State's offense has not been tested against a decent defense.
Fact 2: Mississippi State's defense gave up 31 points to the only team with a top 50 offense they've faced.
Fact 3: Alabama demolished a top 20 defense.
Fact 4: Alabama held the top 2 offenses they've faced to less points combined than the best offense MSU faced.
#53 scoring offense, #16 scoring defense
#46 scoring offense, #54 scoring defense
#68 scoring offense, #87 scoring defense
#116 scoring offense, #90 scoring defense
#42 scoring offense, #64 scoring defense
#90 scoring offense, #59 scoring defense
#37 scoring offense, #96 scoring defense
or these teams?
#65 scoring offense, #84 scoring defense (FCS)
#118 scoring offense, #55 scoring defense
#63 scoring offense, #62 scoring defense
#109 scoring offense, #77 scoring defense
#109 scoring offense, #93 scoring defense
#37 scoring offense, #96 scoring defense
#58 scoring offense, #81 scoring defense
Fact 1: Mississippi State's offense has not been tested against a decent defense.
Fact 2: Mississippi State's defense gave up 31 points to the only team with a top 50 offense they've faced.
Fact 3: Alabama demolished a top 20 defense.
Fact 4: Alabama held the top 2 offenses they've faced to less points combined than the best offense MSU faced.
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:06 pm to darkhorse
Alabama's starters are almost exclusively 4- and 5-star players. MSU's starters are mostly 2- and 3-star players.
Alabama's coach is Nick Saban. MSU's coach is Dan Millers.
The game is in Tuscaloosa.
I mean this thread would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
Alabama's coach is Nick Saban. MSU's coach is Dan Millers.
The game is in Tuscaloosa.
I mean this thread would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:06 pm to CrimsonCoast
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The biggest problem with facing Alabama's offense is that there is no weakness to make us play to.
I like it when a fan post in a level headed way. This is something that MSU will have to deal with. It's a fact that when you have had to throw, you have gotten the job done.
The issue is that we have to make you beat us in the air. Tha's m opinion. I would take my chances there over allowing Bama to run all day.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:07 pm to darkhorse
I usually don't post on here, but you're to stupid to ignore.
Why not take a ban bet if you're so confident yal win
38-17 BAMA if you're lucky.
most of your points are invalid because yal have played such a shitty schedule.
Why not take a ban bet if you're so confident yal win
38-17 BAMA if you're lucky.
most of your points are invalid because yal have played such a shitty schedule.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:08 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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CGSC Lobotomy
Fact: We are 7-0 and TAMpon U isn't!
Anything else?
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:08 pm to darkhorse
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The main difference is that MSU played a very vanilla offense the whole of that schedule except when we played AU and UT. Bama poured it on.
have you ever heard of Nick Saban? after reading your comments in this thread im starting to think you know nothing about this man as a coach
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You didn't really pull your starters as early as we did and played lites out on defense.
do you not remember all the threads about Bama's 4th string DE powerbombing a Mizzou RB? Bama plays their 3rd and 4th stringers in every game. The difference is that most of Bama's 3rd and 4th stringers would be starting at MSU, whereas the 3rd and 4th stringers for MSU wouldnt even be offered a scholly at Bama.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:09 pm to RMFTBama
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Alabama's starters are almost exclusively 4- and 5-star players. MSU's starters are mostly 2- and 3-star players.
:) I love it when you are wrong.
Keep thinking that MSU is just another team...
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:13 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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do you not remember all the threads about Bama's 4th string DE powerbombing a Mizzou RB? Bama plays their 3rd and 4th stringers in every game.
You are having a hard time comprehending what I typed.
I didn't say that Bama didn't play their back ups. What I stated is that Bama played their starters long and, MOST OF ALL, did not change their defense of sets for that. MSU has.
All it takes is for you to look at a few games to see the difference. Watch the placement of the DBs in coverage at say USA vs UT. Totally 2 different defensive schemes. And there is reasons for it.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:28 pm to darkhorse
I think that you are trying to say the MSU defense is more complex than the Bama defense.
But it sounds more like you are just saying that MSU played a shitty defensive scheme against USA. But that would be totally fricking irrelevant to playing Bama so Im not gonna spend any time thinking about how the MSU DBs played against the might USA WRs.
But it sounds more like you are just saying that MSU played a shitty defensive scheme against USA. But that would be totally fricking irrelevant to playing Bama so Im not gonna spend any time thinking about how the MSU DBs played against the might USA WRs.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:30 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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do you think the MSU backups have played more than the Bama backups?
To answer the question honestly, I would have to look at numbers of snaps...I know we've played every single available scholarship player(and walkons) in quite a few of our games... Generally getting 60-65 different guys snaps.
Alabama's backups(read young guys) are ALOT more "SEC ready" from the getgo compared to MSU's. No doubt. Takes alot less development for guys Alabama recruits to be ready than it does for MSU recruits. That is where the 5* out of highschool vs the 2*/3* from out of highschool comes into play...
So, yes, there is a much greater "natural" dropoff from our first string to third string compared to Alabama. That's why we have played those guys in every single opportunity that we possibly can...instead of trying to run up the score on people. We've got to bridge the talent gap through experience and redshirting.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I think that you are trying to say the MSU defense is more complex than the Bama defense.
Not saying that.
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But it sounds more like you are just saying that MSU played a shitty defensive scheme against USA
To alot of MSU fans...100% correct. We played a soft zone. Hardly ever went to a man. Was it because we knew that it would be less taxing on our players and we were playing for the end of the year? Who knows. But it's easy to see that the defenses in the SEC games were totally different to the out of conference games.
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But that would be totally fricking irrelevant to playing Bama so Im not gonna spend any time thinking about how the MSU DBs played against the might USA WRs.
True. That's wasn't my point though. My point is that Bama did not do that with their chump teams. They played lights out. We did not for whatever reason. We rotated more than bama to build depth. I think that's easy to see too. That's not taking anything away from Bama. That's showing that they do have the depth.
The over all point to that, is don't look at the over all stats on MSU and come to a conclusion. You can't. We played totally different with our offense and our defense in these out of conference teams.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:37 pm to engie
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So, yes, there is a much greater "natural" dropoff from our first string to third string compared to Alabama. That's why we have played those guys in every single opportunity that we possibly can...instead of trying to run up the score on people. We've got to bridge the talent gap through experience and redshirting.
Well stated. Looking at the stats will give anybody the wrong picture due to that.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:44 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Western Kentucky. Judging by common opponents, MSU scored 27 against Kentucky; Western Kentucky scored 32 against Kentucky. Western Kentucky scored ZERO points against Bama. MSU might do a little better than that, if they can stay away from the turnovers that played WKU.
Did you watch our game with Kentucky? This is a perfect example of the point I am making. We went up 27-7 on the first drive of the 3rd quarter, and we went with backups from that point on, while running it up the middle mostly. Could have easily put up 40+ in that game.
Both TDs UK scored in that game were squarely on the shoulders of young backups that will see little time against Alabama. Jamerson Love(so CB) fell down allowing the wide open bomb TD pass... Ryan Brown(trFr DE) bit on the fake on the bootleg for the second TD... Neither of those TDs are likely scored against our starters/primary contributors
Hey, I question the amount we've played backups and how often our playcalling has gone vanilla...it has made games out of blowouts, and also probably cost us a few spots in the rankings as well.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:45 pm to darkhorse
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Keep thinking that MSU is just another team
That is an insult to just other teams.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 3:47 pm to DeuceisLoose
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DeuceisLoose
Your team is an insult to the SEC! Move on!
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