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re: MSU Athletic Director is an embarrassment.

Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:48 am to
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17288 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:48 am to
He was stuck with a bad hand this year due to Tutorgate, but I think we can all agree that he handled the suspensions poorly.

Should have taken them all for the first eight games and let the chips fall where they may. I seriously doubt their record would have been any worse, and he might have developed some consistency on the defensive side. Then work those guys back in at the end of the season and finish strong.

Hindsight is fifty-fifty, as a wise man once said.
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:50 am to
Tutorgate has nothing to do with a soft team. It’s clear that he doesn’t coach with the toughness that Croom and Mullen have, because the team is as soft as baby shite. I understand you can take a step back talent wise, but if you at least preach toughness, you have a fighting chance.

ETA: Especially because tutorgate really only impacted two “impact” players.
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 7:52 am
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4457 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:58 am to
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That was literally a huge problem Orgeron had at Ole Miss. He had our players practicing in full pads, full contact Friday afternoon before the games.


And didn't he have a 120-play scrimmage every Thursday?

I hope Moorhead isn't doing something like that.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53452 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:36 am to
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Moorhead was a mistake,




No.. the MSU fans are a mistake.


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athletics are hardly an embarrassment.


Again. that would be the MSU fans.





Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25192 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:44 am to
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What did you expect him to say?

You think he's going to publicly express his concerns while Moorhead is still the head coach?




Quoted for truth. The AD isn't going to come out and say "yeah our head coach is a steaming pile of lizard crap."

The best way to tell that the end is nigh is when the AD starts giving those dreaded "vote of confidence" style statements. At that point the coach in question might as well put their house on the market.
Posted by I let the dogs out
Member since Sep 2017
2241 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:55 am to
I appreciate that perspective, and sometimes I feel the same way. But at the end of the day, he stubbornly refuses to adapt to the strengths of his personnel last year. The Auburn game last year was the only game in conference that I remember when he got creative with the run game and utilized Fitz’s and Hill and Aeris in a smart way. While Osirus dropped that ball against Fla, the offense looked like dog shite the whole game, and for the other 3 games we lost in conference. One or two plays shouldn’t make such a huge difference when you have one of the best defenses in the nation AND the all time leader in rush yards at the QB position in the SEC.

Last year was a major bust. There’s no way to honestly spin it any other way. And then the loss to a bad Big XII team, a blowout to AU, and a loss to Tenner... And off a bye week only amassing 250 yds and 10 points against Tenner!?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:00 am to
Look the only answer an employee making $2.6 million should have when asked about pursuing another job is “I am not leaving this job”.

If he is side stepping the Rutgers issue he should quit tomorrow. That alone is enough reason to fire him. How are you going to recruit and motivate the team if everybody thinks you are leaving?

MSU would be better off if he quit today than waiting to the end of the season.

MSU alumni and season ticket holders should be livid over Morehead’s statements this week.

Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:56 am to
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No.. the MSU fans are a mistake.


Please explain how any other fan base would be any more rational in the circumstances. And spare me “you are Miss State, etc.”. We aren’t expecting a championship. We’re expecting a tough team that is respectable.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53452 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:15 am to
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ETA: Especially because tutorgate really only impacted two “impact” players.




Only a state fan could say this as if it's true. ONLY? Special teams were not hurt? Your best PLAYER on defense was one of them and the vocal leader. Your top DL was another.

It's as if the fan base has not graduated from Jr High football understanding.


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Tutorgate has nothing to do with a soft team.


Again.. stupidest take I have seen from Ms ST fans. You lost all of your leadership and depth on that defense. Soft is due to lack of leadership and young players trying to figure things out while your actual leaders are benched by the NCAA.


quote:

It’s clear that


State fans are clueless
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:19 am to
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We’re expecting a tough team that is respectable.


Exactly.

I've said it before: If we can be competitive and wreck some seasons for the perennial contenders then that's a fun fall.

We've got to be tough to do that. We gotta be Muddy Waters "Mannish Boy" mean. We've gotta be the antithesis to what Goiterhead is being right now. I think the guy will figure it out eventually, but not at State- an SEC middle of the pack school. It's not that it's not doable here, but it's not in his or our best interest.

Because f*ck all this cute chit. LSU, just like any team with even a few mean men on it, is gonna chew up Moorehead's mickey mouse, hocus pocus, gobblygook bullchit and spit it back in face for re-consumption.

I want to see some continuity, effort, grittiness, and hard nose playing, and JM has failed in every respect. He has failed miserably at utilizing his roster's talents to formulate a gameplan- there's ZERO ability for him to adjust.

Hell Dan Mullen and the Relf Coast Offense is a prime example of why JM will never be an elite ENOUGH coach to get to the programs where he can recruit plug-and-play players that suit HIS system. Right now JM has to realize that if he wants that, he's gotta put in the work actually coaching at schools that are on a "take what you can get" level.

The football physics chit has gotten old; lets play some gotdamn football, JoMo.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:20 am to
Oh look you're back.


And once again you were wrong.

Mississippi State was far from the 2nd best team in the west the past two years and didn't beat Auburn by "over 3 TDs"


Go hide in your hole
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:24 am to
Idk what's more embarrassing. You dick riding Moorhead. Or that your reaction to his failures is for you to blame others for what they were yelling in your ear.

I guess you're just embarrassing yourself all around
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:29 am to
Yeah, if you don’t think that coaching has anything to do with toughness on the field, then idk what to say. Even CROOM’S teams were tough and not soft....
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:31 am to
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Moorhead was a mistake


No shame in that. All knowing, all powerful Jeremy Foley made three shitty hires at Florida: Zook, Muschump, Sharkfricker.

Picking head coaches is a crap shoot.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53452 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:03 am to
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He was stuck with a bad hand this year due to Tutorgate, but I think we can all agree that he handled the suspensions poorly.



He was stuck more so than that with the fact that Mullen left the team with no SO or Jrs on at DT and even more so.... FEW LBs to handle what they needed.

Tutorgate amplified it.
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