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re: Most infamous games in SEC since 1992

Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:25 pm to
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JuiceTerry


I see you are having a hard time with this. You should follow your own advice.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:29 pm to
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Umm, it absolutely was an uncatchable ball.


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How is this an uncatchable ball? Had it not been tipped and had Doucet not been pushed it would have been right in his hands.

This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:30 pm to
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Umm, it absolutely was an uncatchable ball. Not sure why you think it was. But I'd like to hear why you think it was.


Because the college pass interference rule says it was until the defender successfully makes a play on the ball. If the receiver is interfered with before that, its a penalty.

Thats the rule. There is no exception whatsoever for a player between the ball and the receiver rendering it uncatchable. A ball is only deemed uncatchable if the trajectory of the ball itself renders it uncatchable irrespective of other players on the field. A ball out of the back of the endzone or overthrown by 15 yards is uncatchable. That ball, per the rules, was not
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:32 pm to
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How is this an uncatchable ball? Had it not been tipped


Well you partially answered your own question. Couple that with doucets location and direction of motion.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:34 pm to
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Because the college pass interference rule says it was until the defender successfully makes a play on the ball. If the receiver is interfered with before that, its a penalty.


You are missing a key aspect.

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There is no exception whatsoever for a player between the ball and the receiver rendering it uncatchable


Well there isn't an exception for where and how the ball was made uncatchable as long as it was.
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A ball is only deemed uncatchable if the trajectory of the ball itself renders it uncatchable irrespective of other players on the field. A ball out of the back of the endzone or overthrown by 15 yards is uncatchable
. Missing some other aspects here as well.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:37 pm to
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Couple that with doucets location and direction of motion.



I'm glad I know for a fact you don't believe the bullshite you spew.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:40 pm to
Just watched the play in question. If Doucet had not been interfered with, there was still no way he was catching it since another player knocked it down in front of him.
Now whether the PI would've been called or not, I don't know. I know they wave it off for uncatchable balls aka bad passes. But, I don't know about this one.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:40 pm to
You have no clue and are just making this up as you go, arent you?

You are single handidly making me sympathetic towards both LSU for that play and for Bama for having to put up with this shite.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 8:41 pm
Posted by mjw60532
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:54 pm to
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Correct, the problem is you dont understand what defines catchable and uncatchable. A ball is not uncatchable simply because there is a man between the receiver and the ball.


Couldn't agree more. If Doucet can get one finger on the ball, it is technically catchable. I had no preference who won that game, but clearly it was PI. I understand arguing against a bunch of LSU fans (even though they're right), but the rest of us don't have any reason to troll you on an easy pass interference call.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:20 pm to
Regardless there were multiple blown calls and phantom holds against LSU in that game. That PI call is just one. I don't blame auburn fans, but the officiating was terrible. I'm not convinced the fix was in, but sure seemed like it from my point of view.


And for the Florida fan who says nothing was taken from LSU, bullshite. If the calls are correctly made, LSU wins and LSU still wins the west and Florida would have to beat us again in Atlanta, which I doubt happens.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:28 pm to
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MSU vs. LSU 2009......also know as "The One Chance"



Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:46 pm to
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I wonder if the Dew with a stiffness game will be controversial in the years to come.


Already is...

Posted by Liberty tiger13
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Also, the AJ Green celebration penalty comes to mind against LSU in 09.


You mean the one yall.got right after the one we got on the drive before. Get the F outta here son!!
Posted by mjw60532
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:19 pm to
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You mean the one yall.got right after the one we got on the drive before. Get the F outta here son!!


Yes, y'all had a completely bogus celebration penalty as well but ours was much more significant. We were only up one point after Green's touchdown meaning we had to prevent LSU from scoring a field goal to win the game. After the Scott touchdown (and two point conversion that followed) we had to score a touchdown in 46 seconds to tie up the game. That allowed LSU to go into a prevent defense, which unfortunately we weren't able to run on D the possession before.
Posted by iglass
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:09 pm to
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You have no clue and are just making this up as you go, arent you?

You are single handidly making me sympathetic towards both LSU for that play and for Bama for having to put up with this shite.


I gotta admire his tenacity. He's taken something like 104 bullets of sensible logic and yet he keeps plugging right along. He's unstoppable.

Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:29 pm to
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NYCAuburn


This dude is not alone amongst his fanbase. This was the moment that sparked my hatred for Auburn. LSU was blatantly jobbed all game and then I remember Auburn fans who refused to acknowledge that they got extraordinary calls.

The PI was just the icing on the cake and the most sensational example from that game, but it happened ALL GAME LONG. It was unreal. I've never seen anything like it since and that loss absolutely cost LSU a trip to Atlanta and a shot at the national title that year. Probably our best team ever.

And FWIW, that was a hell of an Auburn team that year too. It was a defensive slug match but LSU was robbed on multiple occasions that thwarted points and cost field position, both of which were at an extreme premium in that game.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:49 pm to
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Couldn't agree more. If Doucet can get one finger on the ball, it is technically catchable.


Looks like you are correct, now tell me how he could have got one finger on it. Therein lies roger and the others problem with the reality of what happened.

Roger, how am I making this up as I go? You do know what makes a ball catchable, don't you. Please explain how he was physically capable of catching the ball even if there had been no contact. If you can do that, without changing the facts, id glady change my opinion. But you can't. Because it was physically impossible to catch the ball, which is the main qualifier of pi. Look we even have a bama fan on this page who just watched the video objectively and came with the same conclusion.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:52 pm to
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I gotta admire his tenacity. He's taken something like 104 bullets of sensible logic and yet he keeps plugging right along. He's unstoppable.


So you call lies and recreation of facts, sensible logic? Could you point out the sensible logic. I'd love to see it.

The funny thing people/fans are letting facts get in the way of what they wished would have happened.
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Please explain how he was physically capable of catching the ball even if there had been no contact



What contact you talking about? The ball or Doucet?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:04 am to
The contact with doucet. Even if it had not happened. Explain how he could have been capable to catch the ball?
Without distorting physics.
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