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re: Mizzou, why don't your fans want to go to the ATL for the SEC Tourney?

Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:11 pm to
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SEC tournaments by contrast seem pretty much to consist of: an overwhelming UK majority regardless of which city its played in


pretty accurate

Nashville really would be a good permanent for both M and W basketball tourneys for the SEC.
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:11 pm to
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No, I think BUD being owned by a big european conglomerate will not be the same for the Cards down the road. Paul Allen owns the Seahawks and here they are in the Super Bowl. In the past it had to help the Cards that BUD was in town.
Peyton Manning owns a couple Papa John's franchises and here the Broncos are in the Super Bowl.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:17 pm to
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Peyton Manning owns a couple Papa John's franchises and here the Broncos


Different kind of bud. Owning pizza joints is a smart move. Pizza may be the most common munchies food there is.
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
I can't wait to enjoy the Super Bowl, amiright Cheesy? You know what I'm talking about.
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
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pretty accurate

Nashville really would be a good permanent for both M and W basketball tourneys for the SEC.


It takes advantage of 3 of the better fanbases in the league - Kentucky of course will fill to the brim anywhere but moreso in Nashville, and Tennessee and Vandy will definitely show in big numbers there too when good. The other two fanbases in terms of overall basketball interest - in my opinion at least - that are up there are Mizzou and Arky. Florida is of course very good in hoops but I think this tourney in Atlanta is a good test - do they travel well enough to show up in large numbers just one state away? I'm not terribly sure that they do. I feel like you pretty much have to have the tourney in Florida to have a truly large Gator showing.

My point of all that being, odd as it sounds to tout St.Louis for anything in the SEC, as far as basketball fanbases it might well be a second best option in terms of accessibility if you look at Kentucky, Arkansas, Mizzou, Tennessee and Vandy having the most basketball-oriented of fanbases, again Florida being the major exception. The problem for UF though still being that if you put the tourney near them, none of the schools closest to them geographically - UGA, SC, Auburn, Bama - are seemingly ever gonna give much of a flip about the tournament or travel to it in big numbers, so it takes away much argument for putting the tounament down in that region.

All that said I and the other Mizzou fans are still just noobs so our opinion as to how to arrange the conference events shouldn't carry much weight. Curious to see if there's any sort of consensus to any of the above from the 12 pre-expansion fanbases.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
Man, I just want to know what was in the Scooby Snacks. 2 stoners in a van traveling the country solving mysteries. Good stuff!
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:24 pm to
Woohoo! The Cardinals are only good these days because their stadium is named after a beer. Cheesy gets it. And the Seahawks are good because Microsoft.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:27 pm to
Gators are not good at traveling for basketball.

Gaylord / Bridgestone is a good sized venue for SEC tourney and Nashville is fun city. If they put it in STL where would you have them hold it? Scottrade? Isn't that the Blues primary?
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Scottrade
Yes
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:31 pm to
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The Cardinals are only good these days because their stadium is named after a beer.


No, not about naming, more about where the corporate folks live. When you have a corporate HQ in your town it usually means better schools, parks, sports, etc because owners live in the neighborhood. If you have a sports team owned by one of the bigger advertisers on the globe, it can not hurt exposure.
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:33 pm to
I wasn't aware the relationship between the Cards and Bud was ending. That's a bummer.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:34 pm to
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Scottrade


I like the venue and staying at that old hotel (converted train station) around the corner is pretty good setup. My question was if the Blues were the primary tenant would they give up the venue on an overlapping sports season? Now that the SEC has added the extra games it pretty much locks up the venue for the week.
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:35 pm to
Will the Predators give up Bridgestone?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:42 pm to
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Will the Predators give up Bridgestone?


SEC had history long before Preds came to town.

1984 = Auburn with Sir Charles
1998 = Predators com to Nashville
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:42 pm to
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I thought meth was a cash cow?
Yeah, the dealers and producers are probably getting rich off us.



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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:46 pm to
This is nonsense. The facility is already set to host in either 2018 or 2022. Of course the Blues will oblige.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:50 pm to
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The facility is already set to host in either 2018 or 2022.


yes but Bridgestone is slated to host 10 of those years

10 > 2
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:53 pm to
You questioned whether the Blues would give up Scottrade. Yes, they will. Your question has been answered.
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:55 pm to
Because prices drop when UK gets knocked out. Maybe they figure if they make it far UK will be done and they'll get the second hand tickets from UK fans
Posted by NEMizzou
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:13 pm to
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I like the venue and staying at that old hotel (converted train station) around the corner is pretty good setup. My question was if the Blues were the primary tenant would they give up the venue on an overlapping sports season? Now that the SEC has added the extra games it pretty much locks up the venue for the week.


They already do for several days during Arch Madness, the tourney for the MVC. I suppose they could put the thing on at the Ed Jones Dome as they have for the NCAAs in the past, but I'd be surprised if enough people would show up to make it interesting.

Mizzou traveled very well to KC when they had the Big 8/12 tourney there and OK when they had it in OKC, but I can't think of anybody in Columbia who is driving/flying 900 miles to Atlanta to watch possibly a single basketball game. I think a reasonable contingent would go to Nashville, especially if Mizzou is halfway decent, but you would have to pay me to go to Atlanta for a bball tourney.
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