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re: Mizzou sitting at 53 scholarship players

Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:37 am to
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:37 am to
Don’t worry. We barely have a team.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:37 am to
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Why did Alabama play last year with so many injuries?


Because you didn't have a choice.

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Why is Missouri playing though they will be down to 53 or less scholarship players? I'm pretty sure it's because the team wants to play and the coach isn't a coward.


We aren't sure that they will play if they fall below 53.

We also dont know who is affected, in LSU's case there were several position groups basically scraped bare and multiple starters out across the team.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:39 am to
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Because not every position is going to be playing back ups, it can also build depth.


I mean you can do all of that in a rescheduled games and not be forced to potentially play your punter at QB, defensive lineman on the offensive line, and offensive linemen at tight end.

Also, you'd have some receivers.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:42 am to
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I mean you can do all of that in a rescheduled games


If this was a one off thing then you would have a point but its been pretty clear that there are going to be a ton of issues with that because there are so many games that need to be rescheduled.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:42 am to
spin it all you want to

Missouri's isn't a more talented team with 53 or less scholarship players than LSU was with 46. Both teams have about 100 total players.

Missouri's coach chose to play the game and LSU's coach did not.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:46 am to
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If this was a one off thing then you would have a point but its been pretty clear that there are going to be a ton of issues with that because there are so many games that need to be rescheduled.


That isn't LSU's fault, this is the only game we caused to be rescheduled.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:47 am to
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spin it all you want to


I just gave factual information, not sure how thats a "spin."

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Missouri's coach chose to play the game and LSU's coach did not.


Since Missouri isnt currently under 53, they have no choice but to play or forfeit.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:51 am to
If a team can't meet the minimum requirements, it can choose to play anyway.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:51 am to
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That isn't LSU's fault, this is the only game we caused to be rescheduled.


When did I say all of these was LSU's fault?

You asked
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Why should LSU play a game with only 45 scholly players and missing all of their long snappers, tight ends, most of their receivers, and only having one quarterback?

Why would a coach do that?


I gave you a legit answer

No matter where the fault lies for each individual answer the reality is what it is and you have to try to make the best of it.

For instance, Arkansas has yet to miss a game. There are rumors that they could be without the #1 and #2 WRs, starting QB, starting RB, 2 or 3 DLinemen and I guess some others. If that is true, we are not beating LSU but I still hope they play the game. Its a net benefit even in a loss when the other option is probably no game at all.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:54 am to
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If a team can't meet the minimum requirements, it can choose to play anyway.




And no team has.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:57 am to
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Its a net benefit even in a loss when the other option is probably no game at all.





I think thats a little different now than it was when LSU made the decision though.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7134 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:01 am to
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If a team can't meet the minimum requirements, it can choose to play anyway.



And no team has.


we don't know that, and we don't know if Missouri will have 53 by Saturday, but I bet, unlike LSU, they will play the game

for that matter, we don't know for sure if LSU had fewer than 53 last Saturday
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:03 am to
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I think thats a little different now than it was when LSU made the decision though.


With already having one game before Bama postponed and the trend we were starting to see a couple of weeks ago, I disagree. It looks worse now than it did before but it was still looking bad a week ago.

If LSU was competing for the West or a CFP spot, I would totally see the point of trying to play at fuller strength later in the year but LSU needs to get better in many areas.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:07 am to
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Well it is South Carolina.


Well we haven't pussied out of playing anyone and we basically had maybe 5 players if you go off of effort and being mentally present for the game.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52400 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:09 am to
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we don't know that

Sure we do. If anyone is playing a game with less than 53 scholly players, they have to make the SEC aware of it.

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we don't know if Missouri will have 53 by Saturday, but I bet, unlike LSU, they will play the game


I'd tend to agree with you for the simple fact that it was understood that most of the postponements last weekend had a very good chance of being rescheduled.

Going forward, they're likely to be cancellations.

Also, South Carolina is having plenty of issues of its own, its the perfect opponent for Missouri if they are in fact shorthanded.

Especially with a first year head coach who is still evaluating his roster, Mizzou can treat this like an NFL preseason game.

There was no reason for LSU to do that against Bama, it'd be irresponsible to send your team out to get their arses kicked knowing you can just reschedule the game. Its a good way to lose the team.

There is no reason to have a 30 year old punter playing quarterback vs Alabama with no tight ends and only a couple of receivers just because you were too proud to reschedule.

I venture to guess that Saban would've done the same thing.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52400 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:13 am to
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but LSU needs to get better in many areas.


I really cant see how a bunch of walk ons getting smashed by #1 Alabama makes LSU any better, in fact, I think it'd cause the more talented players to check out.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:19 am to
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I really cant see how a bunch of walk ons getting smashed by #1 Alabama makes LSU any better


If every position was played by a walk on, I might agree with you

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in fact, I think it'd cause the more talented players to check out.


Then that is a problem with the coaches
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7134 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:24 am to
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If anyone is playing a game with less than 53 scholly players, they have to make the SEC aware of it.


Orgeron just lied about it to avoid a certain arse kicking at the hands of Alabama and besides that, he still could have played. Missouri isn't more talented with 53 scholarship players than LSU is with 46
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:30 am to
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They also aint on a losing streak vs LSU.

Correct. Mizzou beat L1U.
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8-1 also isn't a losing streak. L1U's super bowl record of 1-8 vs Bama in this decade proves Bama is L1U's "daddy".
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7134 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:36 am to
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Mizzou beat L1U.


well you got a point there. Still I doubt Missouri is more talented with 53 scholarship players than LSU with 46, but it's entirely possible Missouri has a better coaching staff than LSU. For sure, Missouri's head coach isn't scared to play, like LSU's head coach was.
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