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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:00 pm to WDE24
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:00 pm to WDE24
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Until what age? Is it the same for everyone?
You've got to stop it somewhere. You've got to set a limit so everybody knows what is legal.
I know plenty of 15-year-olds who are capable of drinking alcohol responsibly.
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:01 pm to mbogo
Their love of methamphetamines and needle sharing propensity?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:02 pm to WDE24
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Roadkill for Arkansas?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:02 pm to mbogo
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Ok,how about the fact that homosexuals live shorter lives,have more diseases,more instances of emotional problems,domestic violence,etc.
are there links to this, or is this just water cooler gossip from your local KKK chapter?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:03 pm to mbogo
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Ok,how about the fact that homosexuals live shorter lives,have more diseases,more instances of emotional problems,domestic violence,etc.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:04 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Minors do not have the LEGAL capacity to consent to sex. That is completely different from their actual desire to consent.
Yes, but again, everything has a start.
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Thus, pedophillia is NOT the same as homosexuality between consenting adults with legal capacity to grant said consent.
If the APA changes this to a sexual orientation, they are given the same protection under the law! Not a thing you can do about it.
Second, if that's step one, then who are you to keep them from their rights?
Third, If those same doctors state that children are capable then what?
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Little research has been done on children involved in pedophiliac relationships. Although there are many preconceptions about the nature of the “sexual abuse” occurring in these relationships, little is known about how the children involved actually feel about these sexual contacts. In this research the question of whether sexual relations with an adult can be a positive experience for a child is addressed.
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Although the boys were able to point to some negative aspects of their sexual contacts, most of them reported experiencing these contacts as predominantly positive. The sexual contacts were found to have had no negative influence upon the boys' sense of general well-being, nor did the boys perceive in these contacts a misuse of authority by the adult.
So far there have been 4 people in this thread that agree with pedophilia being labeled as a sexual orientation.
BTW, I am not one of them.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:04 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:I know, but your argument about "legally consenting" was logically flawed because of this.
You've got to stop it somewhere. You've got to set a limit so everybody knows what is legal.
However, I don't equate or even analogize homosexuality with beastiality or pedophilia, so I'm on your side in this particular point. Other than it being a sin, assuming one is a Christian or believes the Bible to be true, I am indifferent as to homosexuality.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:05 pm to REG861
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are there links to this, or is this just water cooler gossip from your local KKK chapter?
Even if the evidence supports his position, WHO GIVES A frick!!! That doesn't prove JACK shite!!!
So, we should round up all the gays and systematically execute them for the "greater good." Not thanks, comrade. Take it back to Red Square.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:06 pm to REG861
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Ok,how about the fact that homosexuals live shorter lives,have more diseases,more instances of emotional problems,domestic violence,etc.
At the end of the day shame and guilt are powerful forces. Just because you are a homosexual doesn't mean you have to frequent bath house or beat up your partner when you are angry. Part of the issue for homosexuals is the guilt ridden trip society puts on them. It is a recipe for shame and high risk behavior.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:07 pm to WDE24
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I know, but your argument about "legally consenting" was logically flawed because of this.
Yes, I agree it would be flawed. I said that the have the capacity at different ages to consent, but for purposes of the law, pedophilia must have definite terms.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:09 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:Agreed. Sex with children is almost always some form of rape. As to when a person develops the requisite ability to properly consent to sex such that it is no longer a form of rape, well it differs from person to person and situation to situation such that a bright-line standard has to be drawn no matter how imperfect.
Yes, I agree it would be flawed. I said that the have the capacity at different ages to consent, but for purposes of the law, pedophilia must have definite terms.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:10 pm to KaiserSoze99
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pedophilia must have definite terms.
I'm like 80% sure pedophilia refers to an attraction to prepubescent children. I don't know of an age of consent in the developed world low enough to cover that.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:10 pm to WDE24
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Agreed. Sex with children is almost always some form of rape. As to when a person develops the requisite ability to properly consent to sex such that it is no longer a form of rape, well it differs from person to person and situation to situation such that a bright-line standard has to be drawn no matter how imperfect.
Damn lawyers!!!
I can spot one of my own from 50,000 miles away.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:11 pm to Duke
Third trimester?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:12 pm to Rebelgator
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Third trimester?
Now you've practically brought abortion in here. Look at what you've done!
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:12 pm to WDE24
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Agreed. Sex with children is almost always some form of rape. As to when a person develops the requisite ability to properly consent to sex such that it is no longer a form of rape, well it differs from person to person and situation to situation such that a bright-line standard has to be drawn no matter how imperfect.
It's imperfect but the laws are multi-faceted. Someone who has sex with a 15-18 year is getting less time than some who goes for someone under 13. Clearly most, if not all, of the 13 year old out there don't have capacity.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:13 pm to WDE24
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Agreed. Sex with children is almost always some form of rape.
While I agree with you 100%, that is changing within the APA.
Again, once it is an orientation, it's protect.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:13 pm to Duke
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:13 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:13 pm to Duke
quote:usually defined as somewhere between the ages of 11-13 as the cut off.
I'm like 80% sure pedophilia refers to an attraction to prepubescent children.
quote:I would think they would error on the side of an age of consent safely away from the borderline, so I agree.
I don't know of an age of consent in the developed world low enough to cover that.
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