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re: Mississippi State about to be Georgia Tech West
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:20 am to tWildcat
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:20 am to tWildcat
State is not hiring one of the service academy coaches,although I think Troy Calhoun is a good football coach. Napier,Grantham,Joe Judge or Hud will be the coach. I am just glad Moorhead is gone.
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:31 am to His Majesty
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They were so happy to fire moorehead
Wonder how they feel now
We feel great. We've got our coach. The rest of this is just a smoke screen.
And if it doesn't work out? Who cares. We'll just move on to the next guy. You'll still be a moron, though.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:37 am to RD Dawg
I wish like heck they would flag the blocking schemes used by option teams, any d-lineman thinking about going pro spends half the time protecting their knees.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:04 pm to deeprig9
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Here's the deal...
If you could get a Cam or Dak or Justin Fields that could complete a forward pass on 3rd and long, but also be an elite running back, then the Triple Option could be a competitive offense in the SEC. Problem is none of those top shelf guys are going to come to a program that runs that shite.
Also, the triple option is a slow scoring march down the field, even when successful, which means you don't get alot of opportunities on offense, which means you need a damn stout defense to keep yourself from getting blown out early. Can a triple option coach at MsSt put together a top shelf defense too?
Simply put the NFL has changed
Dual threat QBs previously had no clear path to the NFL
Now dual threat QBs can go 1st round just like any other QB, and with QBs getting 2nd contracts that average $32 million per year no decent HS QB that can also pass the ball is gonna throw away a potential NFL Career screwing around with Tripl-Oh FB while he's in College, they'll simply find an RPO scheme that does have a path to the NFL
You'll end up Recruiting horrible run first, weak passing QBs and crappy WRs
This will lead to your team not being able to pass consistently, nor being able to pass very well in come from behind situations or on obvious passing downs, you'll become 1 dimensional and your Offense will grind to a halt vs most P5 Teams
Then when you fire the azzhole running that bullshyt offense, it'll be akin to SMU trying to recover from the death penalty as far as overhauling your Roster
Miss State walk away while you can
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:22 pm to FratDaddyReb
Member when LSU played GA Tech
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:39 pm to deeprig9
Idk man, state gets some athletes, those triple option teams normally aren't good till offense is old like mostly seniors then they start over and jell for 2 years leave you with a 10-2, 9-3 season ever two or three years, it could work, esp with teams going to the smaller faster defense to stop the pass, I could see it working and honestly worth a shot considering the massive change in scheme to spread.
I think it's a matter of time before the I formation or something similar comes back around to take advantage of what defense are doing these days...
Who knows
I think it's a matter of time before the I formation or something similar comes back around to take advantage of what defense are doing these days...
Who knows
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:41 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Look at what Bowden did this year, something different to take advantage of what defenses are doing could be the ticket to a 2-3 loss season
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:49 pm to meansonny
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Grantham actually never lost to it at UGA.
Never said to that.
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Only DC that could say tha
What? Van Gorder never lost to em as our DC and Goff only lost to em once in 7 years with multiple DC's so I'm sure one those fits the bill as well
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But Grantham was actually pretty dominant against it when he converted to an Oklahoma defense
Did you watch the 2013 game? 34 pts and giving 260 yards on the ground is "dominant" not my definition.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:50 pm to FratDaddyReb
I love watching option teams. And theyd be in the West so I support this move :)
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:55 pm to FratDaddyReb
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but Tech stayed competitive just by throwing that wrinkle at teams.
and then they fired their coach who was in a weaker conference.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:59 pm to His Majesty
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Wonder how they feel now
Still happy as hell, because he was single handedly destroying our program. You on here have no idea about any of it.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:00 pm to msudawg1200
Nope. But convience yourself all you want.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:14 pm to RD Dawg
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What? Van Gorder never lost to em as our DC and Goff only lost to em once in 7 years with multiple DC's so I'm sure one those fits the bill as well
Van Gorder and Goff didnt face the triple option. The thread was about the triple option. The point on Grantham was about UGA DCs facing Pail Johnson.
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Did you watch the 2013 game? 34 pts and giving 260 yards on the ground is "dominant" not my definition.
You are right. 2013 wasnt dominant. But Grantham forced Johnson to throw. That's the best way to beat Johnson (making them do something that they arent good at). GT started with 2.08 yards per rush. Because of success in our front 7 and because of big passing success, Johnson opted to throw the football 24 times. Tech finished with 2 passing TDs and 2 INTs.
We didnt play dominant (you are correct). But schematically, we forced Tech to throw the football 24 times and that was a formula for success (allowed our offense to come back from a 20-0 deficit).
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:17 pm to Jjdoc
Nope hell. You don’t know how I think you stupid twit. I promise I’d rather have Hud, Chizik, Monken, who the hell ever than that Sloppy bastard ever back on our sideline. My son attends State, and I’d told him I’d come see him, but I ain’t stepping foot in that stadium again until Moorhead was gone. The only year I failed to attend a State game was the 2008 season. Yeah, you know what season that was. Don’t tell me how I feel prick.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:33 pm to Lsutigerturner
Bowden at Kentucky was in an RPO , he just happened to be a horrible passer and a great runner
That's not the same as running the Tripl-Oh like GT or a Service Academy
That's not the same as running the Tripl-Oh like GT or a Service Academy
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:16 pm to meansonny
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Van Gorder and Goff didnt face the triple option. The thread was about the triple option
Not gonna argue sementics but Grantham had little to do with our success against em in '10 or '13. To say he "beat them"is a little bit of a stretch.
His defenses were historically some of the
worst in UGA history. Rushing yards in '12
and total defense in '13.
I understand he has his fans but I'm not or one and the Gators are becoming increasingly restless with em.Just take a peak at their board.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:19 pm to RD Dawg
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Gators are becoming increasingly restless with em.Just take a peak at their board.
Yeah because small numbers of fans dont ever call for a coachs job after a bad showing.
We could go look at the UGA board after the LSU game for plenty of that as well
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:21 pm to RD Dawg
'13 was as much of Granthams recruiting issues as his scheme. We were playing so many freshmen, it was ridiculous
Florida is frustrated with Granthams scheme which was to be expected. But check out his past 2 recruiting classes. Pretty damn strong. Hes recruiting DBs at Florida better than he ever did at UGA. There is a chance that his defense doesnt fall flat in their 4th year like he did at UGA and was trending at Louisville/MissSt.
Florida is frustrated with Granthams scheme which was to be expected. But check out his past 2 recruiting classes. Pretty damn strong. Hes recruiting DBs at Florida better than he ever did at UGA. There is a chance that his defense doesnt fall flat in their 4th year like he did at UGA and was trending at Louisville/MissSt.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:27 pm to tylerdurden24
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Tech was competitive 1 out of every 3 years and now they’re in a huge hole that it will take years to fill with regards to roster management and recruiting. It made sense for them at the time because of budgetary reasons and academics but given what State has been able to do the past decade I think it’d be a step back. They’ll never win the SEC with that offense and longterm their program will suffer from the dip in athletes
The Academics excuse has been tremendously overplayed and overused by too many GT Alums
40 years ago GT couldn't recruit a Pulpwood Smith or a Meat Cleaver Weaver due to Academics
But GA HS FB isn't the same that it was 40 years ago, now in GA 75-80 of the Top100 HS FB players in GA are Academic Qualifiers for GT as a FB Recruit, 40 years ago maybe 25 of the Top100 HS FB Players were Academic Qualifiers for GT
Guys like Thomas for UGA went to Pace Academy, GT used to get the Private School kids out of Marist, Woodward, and other Pvt Schools in the Metro but after hiring PeeJay they all started going to UGA; Holyfield, Kendall Baker, Thomas
I hate the Academics excuses that GT Fans use, the harsh truth is this:
Among other big time colleges these are the percentages of their players that could go to GT
Stanford - 100%
ND - 100%
Penn State - 90%
Michigan - 90%
USC. - 80%
UCLA. - 90%
UGA. - 75%
Bama. - 60%
Auburn. - 50%
Florida. - 50%
Clemson. - 75%
LSU. - 10%
The narrative that Academics has held GT back in FB is a load of crap, GT's Admin has held GT back by being cheapskates and not giving the Athl Dept the fair attention that it deserves
Also the School has crafted the Athl Dept to be attractive to GT Alums rather than being attractive to CFB Fans in the Metro Atl Area, this has cost GT a lot of Fans and a lot of lost revenues
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