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Mike the Tiger

Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19606 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:59 pm
He gone

Beginning of the end imo

The interim president of LSU was quoted in The Advocate as saying “Any student, or particularly a student of color, that has to go into any building which bears the name of someone not identified with progress and with racist traditions is to inhibit their education. They won’t feel safe in that building.”

It was of a surprise to me that in the opinion of the interim president that some LSU students are in fear when walking in buildings named after gentlemen who served in the Confederate Army.

If in fact that is so, how great is the fear when those students walk on the campus of a school that has a live mascot named after the Louisiana Tigers, a famous Confederate battalion who fought with Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia.

Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:04 pm to
Not sure if you know this, but a tiger is a real life animal. They existed long before confederacy. Also, pretty sure they eat all races. And this is coming from a liberal, commy, left-wing nut job, as some of you older, whiter gentleman would typically put it.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14096 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:11 pm to
A second mascot animal now declared racist in as many weeks.
Posted by patawan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2019
150 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:11 pm to
I've heard we dubbed ourselves the Tigers because it was the thing to do at the time, naming your school mascot after a ferocious animal.

The fighting tigers came up later. So its more of a coincidence, than us explicitly naming ourselves after the confederate regiment you mentioned.

Bayou Bengals, Chinese Bandits, Fighting Tigers. Who tf cares anyway, dont you have something better to do with your time? Or are you just trying to start problems where there are none? lol gtfoh

Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:15 pm to
Do some reading that battalion was around long before the civil war
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17816 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:18 pm to
If LSU were to get rid of Mike the Tiger and the Tigers nickname, I would completely stop my support of LSU athletics and the university.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:19 pm to
Shall we explore Smokey's origins or the Tennessee Vols origins as far as names go we look hard enough I'll bet we can dig up something on it
Posted by MACtigers
9eaux1, TN
Member since Feb 2014
651 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

live mascot named after the Louisiana Tigers


was there a confederate soldier named Mike or something? cauuuse if not, i don't know how an actual live tiger can be named after the Louisiana Tigers.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22554 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

was there a confederate soldier named Mike


It would seem extremely likely that at least one of them was named Mike.

Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19606 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:26 pm to
Volunteers fought for the US flag and saved New Orleans from the British
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Shall we explore Smokey's origins or the Tennessee Vols origins as far as names go we look hard enough I'll bet we can dig up something on it


Smokey's origins are simple. We held open auditions and Smokey's responses (howls) in front of the crowd won him the job.

As for our nickname... do you for real not know this?

Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9421 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

A second mascot animal now declared racist in as many weeks


One is an animal. The other is named after confederate soldiers who fought for slavery.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:18 pm to
Firstly, "Mike" the Tiger came from Mike I in 1935, the first Tiger mascot whose name was originally 'Shiek', but changed to 'Mike' in honor of Mike Chambers, the orignal trainer of Mike I at LSU. Every subsequent live mascot has been Mike. We are now up to Mike VII.

And........so sorry to disappoint you, but the LSU Tiger name has nothing whatsoever to do with the Civil War, the Va. soldier batallion, or any other militia nickname prior to 1893:

LSU and the Bengal Tiger:

The Bengal Tiger has been the official mascot of Louisiana State University since 1936. In 1893, LSU (In particular Coach Charles Coates) chose the Panthera tigris tigris because it was the custom at the time to choose a name based upon a vicious animal. Dr. Charles Coates, who was Dean Emeritus, College of Pure and Applied Science and the Tigers' first Head Football Coach who was affiliated with LSU from 1893-1939, detailed this history in the following letter to the LSU Alumni News in October of 1937:
quote:
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It was the custom at that time, first in the Northeast and Ivy League, and then the South, for some occult reason, to call football teams by the names of vicious animals; the Yale Bulldogs and the Princeton Tigers, for example. This was and is still the vogue.

It ALSO struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and would suit a growling Tiger head.
________________________________________
How The Tigers Got Their Name - Dr. Charles Coates

So, although the LSU football uniform also reminded Coates of the colorful uniforms similar to those worn by the French Army Zouaves, and the moniker had been used as a nickname by various Louisiana military units that pre-dated the Civil War, the LSU football team was actually just named after......the cat (in accordance with custom at the time of using animals, borrowed from Coates' Northeast schools' roots), not a military unit.

The later tiger head symbol came from the Washington Artillery of New Orleans. A militia unit that traces its history back to the 1830s and during the Spanish-American War, not the Civil War. The Washington Artillery had a logo that featured a snarling tiger's head similar to that which adorns LSU's football helmet.

The point of this post was to show where LSU got its nickname for its athletic teams - 'Tigers.' It was from Dr. Charles Coates, LSU's first football coach, who chose a name he though would (1) be en vogue with the rest of the South choosing names of ferocious animals, as had been the custom in the northeast and Ivy League (where Coates came from), and (2) that LSU's colors of royal purple and old gold (which he also chose from the local store selling Mardi Gras ribbon) would go well with a growling tiger head.

Decades later, at an alumni banquet and through a newspaper interview, he related the above, plus the 'insinuation' and assumption by some that the name somehow came from the Louisiana Tigers regiment who fought in Virginia during the Civil War - a nickname given to them for their ferociousness. But, Coates stressed that he wasn't even thinking of that in 1893 - THIRTY YEARS AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER. And he dismissed this notion that some LSU fans naturally assumed was true, but never was.

So, all these people that just assume that the name Tiger came from a Civil War regiment, are woefully and monumentally incorrect......
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6892 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:26 pm to
He gone
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:28 pm to
And why is that? Can you even READ ???

This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6892 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:33 pm to
sarcasm - the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

The later tiger head symbol came from the Washington Artillery of New Orleans. The Washington Artillery had a logo that featured a snarling tiger's head similar to that which adorns LSU's football helmet.

That's actually pretty cool.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47589 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:51 pm to
Tennessee furnished more soldiers for the Confederate Army than any other state besides Virginia
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6892 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:01 pm to
It is pretty cool.

Me and MetryTyger used to cut up on Rivals Soundoff board back in the day. I was kinda pranking him, I had a different username then, one that was was frequently banned.It was fun psychology for me. He doesnt remember, but I was concerned when a tornado roared through close by his home way back then.


So, to sum this up... Mike the Tiger ... He Gone !

Posted by SeaCay
Odessa, FL
Member since Mar 2012
1722 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:13 pm to
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liberal, commy, left-wing nut


Well then fuuuuuuck you.
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