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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:37 pm to NickPapageorgio
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:37 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Or was the NIL and portal rules? Not the players. Someone said it was the system, not the players, that caused him to become exhausted and not be able to coach his team until March.
Tell us, which rules changed between August and today that caused him to become exhausted? Surely, there were new rule changes since he agreed to coach this season. Right?
There's no point in being obtuse. Anyone who follows sports is able to see that it's becoming crazier and crazier every offseason.
It's not as if all of this started in 2021 and has remained static since then.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:40 pm to JayAg
Immediately thought Mario Cristobal eagerly clicked thread to see irony of cam ward. Was disappointed
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:43 pm to TexasTiger08
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If his team is so shitty and he's that out of touch with this generation, maybe this is an upgrade for Miami...?
It may be an upgrade eventually. Some folks said the same thing about Virginia when Bennett quit before the season. They're terrible now, despite some saying they'd be okay due to staff continuity.
All I know is that from the guy's own words just prior to this season he had no intention to retire. He even stated he felt good about his roster. I think the season went sideways, he started to catch some heat, pressure built, and he (they) used this as an out. To believe otherwise I would have to ignore everything he's said in the past, his actions of embracing the transfer portal, and his own belief that he still had a few seasons left in the tank.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There's no point in being obtuse. Anyone who follows sports is able to see that it's becoming crazier and crazier every offseason.
It's not as if all of this started in 2021 and has remained static since then.
He's the one who quit on his players a week prior to the conference games starting. You are the one that defends that because.....reasons.
You can't give any good reasons why that was ok other than......kids should play for free and only leave if a coach processes them. Coaches can do whatever they want though including leave during the middle of a season and don't dare call them jerks for doing that.
Like I said, clown world.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:48 pm to NickPapageorgio
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They clearly exhausted this 75-year-old multi-millionaire.
Imagine knighting for the modern college athlete that gets everything handed to them on a platter, including cash, and then having the gall to criticize the "multi-millionaire" coach.
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Or was the NIL and portal rules? Not the players. Someone said it was the system, not the players, that caused him to become exhausted and not be able to coach his team until March.
Tell us, which rules changed between August and today that caused him to become exhausted? Surely, there were new rule changes since he agreed to coach this season. Right?
Tell me, I want to know the players and the rules that caused him to suffer to the point of exhaustion coaching basketball for millions of dollars.
His press conference pretty much spelled it out. Rewatch it if you need to. Is it not possible that between August and now, he's hit a breaking point? But no, to appease random internet user on TD, he needs to stick it out. Why would you want him as your coach if he's telling you he can't give it his best?
Maybe we should criticize all of these players. They clearly suck and aren't producing a good return on any investment. Losing to Charleston Southern and Mt. St. Mary's? Seems like these players are "exhausted" too.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:52 pm to NickPapageorgio
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He's the one who quit on his players a week prior to the conference games starting.
The team sucks. They were going to miss the Tourney with him coaching anyway. Now, they have a sliver of hope.
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You are the one that defends that because.....reasons.
If I was a Miami fan, I'd be fine with it. Team is 4-8 and coach said he can't give it his best. The season was a wash anyway, I say "happy retirement coach and thanks for making our program relevant".
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:52 pm to NickPapageorgio
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He's the one who quit on his players a week prior to the conference games starting. You are the one that defends that because.....reasons.
You can't give any good reasons why that was ok other than......kids should play for free and only leave if a coach processes them. Coaches can do whatever they want though including leave during the middle of a season and don't dare call them jerks for doing that.
Like I said, clown world.
I didn't say any of that, not only are you obtuse, you're creating false narratives.
I simply said I understand his frustration, especially at his advanced age.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
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How's it hypocritical?
He uses the system to go to a final four and doesn’t say anything. Yet when he is 4-8 suddenly the system is broken. He cited that some of his players left in the portal after the final four season.
Well he didn’t seem to care when he was taking those players from other coaches who may have had final four dreams.
He also notes them leaving to seek more money elsewhere.
A quick google search reveals he had a contract with George Mason through 2016. Yet he left for Miami in 2011z
I have my doubts that he took a paycut to do so.
You don’t see how any of that is hypocritical?
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:55 pm to kywildcatfanone
This was bound to happen. Might be a blessing in disguise for this coach. Probably saw the Wild West of college athletics and doesn’t want to exhaust his time because he’s no spring chicken. I don’t blame him.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:55 pm to Adam Banks
You're an imbecile and you're poor.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:58 pm to TexasTiger08
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modern college athlete that gets everything handed to them on a platter, including cash, and then having the gall to criticize the "multi-millionaire" coach
Is that how it works? They hand out offers and cash on a platter. I didn't know. I thought they offered cash and prizes because the players are athletes who had trained for years and competed against other athletes to earn cash and prizes.
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Is it not possible that between August and now, he's hit a breaking point?
He did mention exhaustion. He's old so I can believe that he just doesn't have the energy to coach any longer. I mean if he's too old to do the job, he should step down. He should just flat out say that though.
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Maybe we should criticize all of these players. They clearly suck and aren't producing a good return on any investment.
Perhaps we should. I mean, I didn't recruit them and make promises to them so I don't feel any obligation towards them whatsoever. The coach though....I may be wrong, but I suspect he did actually make promises to some of the players and I'm pretty sure he thought they were good enough to be on his team so I'm not so sure HE should be saying a damn word criticizing them (and I don't think he did).
You go for it though.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:59 pm to Adam Banks
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You don’t see how any of that is hypocritical?
No, coaches operate within a system of contracts. Players don't.
Not sure why some fans want to pretend they're the same.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No, coaches operate within a system of contracts. Players don't. Not sure why some fans want to pretend they're the same.
What about how he used the portal happily to make a final four poaching other coaches talent yet he gets all up in his feels when others did the same?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:05 pm to Adam Banks
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What about how he used the portal happily to make a final four poaching other coaches talent yet he gets all up in his feels when others did the same?
I don't follow basketball but I feel like you're likely exaggerating what actually happened to further your narrative.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:05 pm to NickPapageorgio
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He's old so I can believe that he just doesn't have the energy to coach any longer. I mean if he's too old to do the job, he should step down. He should just flat out say that though.
He did.
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"At this point, after 53 years, I just didn't feel that I could successfully navigate this whole new world that I was dealing with
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I didn't know how to navigate through this.
"I'm exhausted. I've tried every which way to keep this going."
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't follow basketball but I feel like you're likely exaggerating what actually happened to further your narrative.
He played the portal exactly like everyone else does, put together his team(s), and didn't have much of anything to say about it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
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He played the portal exactly like everyone else does, put together his team(s), and didn't have much of anything to say about it
How many transfers were on the 2022 Miami team?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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How many transfers were on the 2022 Miami team?
I believe someone mentioned it earlier. I don't care enough to dig into it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:12 pm to NickPapageorgio
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I mean if he's too old to do the job, he should step down. He should just flat out say that though.
Saying he's exhausted is his reasoning. Sorry it doesn't jive with the exact wording you would like used.
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Is that how it works? They hand out offers and cash on a platter. I didn't know. I thought they offered cash and prizes because the players are athletes who had trained for years and competed against other athletes to earn cash and prizes.
Many of these players are getting compensated well above their "market value." The best part is coaches asking fans to pony up. It's all laughable. As for them "training for years"...geez. These guys were genetically blessed and were great at junior high and HS hoops. If you want to donate to OM for this shite, be my guest. Keep knighting for their rights.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:13 pm to Adam Banks
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You don’t see how any of that is hypocritical?
It's only hypocritical to those that think kids should run the show. I'm a level-headed adult. I see zero problem with the guy bailing when the time is right.
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