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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.

Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:05 pm to
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The guy is trying to act above it all and that all sportsmanship is gone from the game when 30-40 years ago he would have been ridiculed and blackballed for doing this mid season.

Listen, people have their own reasons for doing stuff and it’s fine.

Just don’t try to do that right before conference play and then try to act like the arbiter of sportsmanship


I didn't see where he said anything about "sportsmanship", he just said the system is broken and he's exhausted.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34618 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:08 pm to
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The gig in 2024 isn’t the same as the gig last year, or any years prior




The portal has been there since 2018. Free transfers since 2021 same with NIL.


This wasn’t instituted at the end of the fall semester. Nor was it even a rule change prior to this season

hell one of his best players on that final four team Charlie Moore was a transfer. Multiple players on that team were transfers in.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:09 pm to
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All he had to say was.....im exhausted and too old...I don't have the heart for this....I apologize to my players and the fans.

He didn't do that man. That's why he's catching shite. He handled it like an a-hole.


He handled like a guy who isn't going to speak some company line. He handled like a guy who isn't going to bend the knee because that's what some fans expect. He handled it like a guy who tells it like it is. I respect that.

And it doesn't seem like he's catching much shite with the exception of a small percentage of people.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34618 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:11 pm to
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He handled it like a guy who tells it like it is. I respect that.




He handled it like a complete hypocrite which I don’t respect.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:11 pm to
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The portal has been there since 2018. Free transfers since 2021 same with NIL.


This wasn’t instituted at the end of the fall semester. Nor was it even a rule change prior to this season

hell one of his best players on that final four team Charlie Moore was a transfer. Multiple players on that team were transfers in.


I know. And things are getting wilder each season. CFB in 2024 isn't nearly the same as it was even two years ago. You didn't have kids fetching $12 mil. out of high school.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65875 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:11 pm to
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He handled like a guy who isn't going to speak some company line. He handled like a guy who isn't going to bend the knee because that's what some fans expect. He handled it like a guy who tells it like it is. I respect that.

And it doesn't seem like he's catching much shite with the exception of a small percentage of people.

Sure, in a vacuum that is how he handled it. He doesn't exist in a vaccum, though.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34618 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:12 pm to
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things are getting wilder each season. CFB in 2024 isn't nearly the same as it was even two years ago. You didn't have kids fetching $12 mil. out of high school.



Number 1 this is CBB not CFB.

Number 2 it was A-OK when Jim was using it to poach kids off other rosters to make his final four. Yet when turnabout happens he takes his ball and goes home.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:14 pm to
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The only honorable choice he had was to fulfill his obligations he committed to in August.


and FWIW, his contract was running through 2026-27. Are you suggesting that quitting anytime before then is a dick move?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:15 pm to
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He handled it like a complete hypocrite which I don’t respect.


How's it hypocritical?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:16 pm to
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Number 1 this is CBB not CFB.


The rules of NIL and the portal apply to both.

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Number 2 it was A-OK when Jim was using it to poach kids off other rosters to make his final four. Yet when turnabout happens he takes his ball and goes home.


Well, when you are 75 years old and have taken the program to new heights, maybe it's best for the program if he steps down. For all we know, that may have happened.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:17 pm to
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How's it hypocritical?


Banks and Papa have it out for this guy for some weird reason. If a player did this, they would celebrate it as he would be trying to maximize his earning potential. mUh MaRkEt VaLuE, if you will.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
849 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:20 pm to
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and FWIW, his contract was running through 2026-27. Are you suggesting that quitting anytime before then is a dick move?


Of course not. It would have been proper as a college coach to just finish the year and retire.

Most college coaches are on multi-year deals so it is very normal for them to move jobs while still under contract. Preferably giving the school some notice which is why I previously mentioned if he and the AD sat down and figured now was best for him and the school, I wouldn't be saying he's acting out of pocket.

Like I said.....three months and he's out without abandoning his team. Honestly it's closer to 2 months until coaching changes start.

Leaving as you start conference play while blaming the players is clown world level crap.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:21 pm to
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Leaving as you start conference play while blaming the players is clown world level crap.


He didn't blame the players, he blamed the system
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:22 pm to
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Leaving as you start conference play while blaming the players is clown world level crap.


You guys are all for player empowerment. That means they aren't above criticism.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43756 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:26 pm to
No. He was fine when the system benefited him. He is leaving when he no longer holds the players at a disadvantage. Just like Saban.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:28 pm to
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No. He was fine when the system benefited him. He is leaving when he no longer holds the players at a disadvantage. Just like Saban.


I don't see where he said anything to the contrary
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65875 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:30 pm to
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No. He was fine when the system benefited him. He is leaving when he no longer holds the players at a disadvantage. Just like Saban.

He was even fine with the new system as long as he was winning. At this point in the season/process it is all just coaching......which is what he's done for decades. If his team was 8-4 instead of 4-8 and it wasn't near the bottom of the conference, he'd still be coaching.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
849 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:33 pm to
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ou guys are all for player empowerment. That means they aren't above criticism.


Tell me, which of the current Miami players we should criticize for him quitting during the middle of the season.

I'm curious.

Let us criticize them together. They clearly exhausted this 75-year-old multi-millionaire. Tell us what they did to him that caused him to leave.

Or was the NIL and portal rules? Not the players. Someone said it was the system, not the players, that caused him to become exhausted and not be able to coach his team until March.

Tell us, which rules changed between August and today that caused him to become exhausted? Surely, there were new rule changes since he agreed to coach this season. Right?

Tell me, I want to know the players and the rules that caused him to suffer to the point of exhaustion coaching basketball for millions of dollars.

He's been so abused.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:33 pm to
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If his team was 8-4 instead of 4-8 and it wasn't near the bottom of the conference, he'd still be coaching.


If his team is so shitty and he's that out of touch with this generation, maybe this is an upgrade for Miami...?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:34 pm to
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He was even fine with the new system as long as he was winning. At this point in the season/process it is all just coaching......which is what he's done for decades. If his team was 8-4 instead of 4-8 and it wasn't near the bottom of the conference, he'd still be coaching.


He basically said he felt they were progressing and then the offseason gutted the roster. It makes sense that he'd feel defeated once the losses started piling up.

quote:

“We should be competing for an ACC championship or even a national championship on a fairly consistent basis, and I thought we were doing that and we were moving closer and closer to being able to do it, and then this happened,” Larrañaga said. “Going into this year, I just felt like, ‘OK, we need to get back to where we were.’


I don't blame the guy really. Who wants to feel like they're never getting any better at what they do?
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