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re: Media responds to Avery Johnson to Bama - "Home run hire"
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:40 pm to Bear88
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:40 pm to Bear88
Anyone who thinks this is a slam dunk home run is crazy, but anyone who thinks this is laughable and won't work is just a homer. Avery Johnson was far from a failure as an NBA coach. He wasn't Coach Bud or Popovich, but he won a TON of games for 3 straight seasons. Terrible coaches don't win that many games for that long in the NBA. They just don't. Does that mean he is GREAT? No, but it means he knows basketball. From reading some folks on here you would think he was Reggie Theus or Larry Drew (google them guys who don't watch the NBA and are probably still commenting on AJ's basketball acumen).
The thing could blow up, but it could also all fit together and be a freakin smash hit. Either way it will be exciting and loud and out in the open. And after the last 6 years of McBoring? I'm all freakin for it.
The thing could blow up, but it could also all fit together and be a freakin smash hit. Either way it will be exciting and loud and out in the open. And after the last 6 years of McBoring? I'm all freakin for it.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 2:41 pm
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:41 pm to Glorious
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Shouldn't he be thrilled that we hire a black coach without a second thought? Unfortunately that wouldn't be the case 40-
You mean that AJ is the second black head coach that Bama has hired...and paying him an NBA level salary?
No, No, No....it doesn't fit Stephen A. Smith's or tRant's narrative....facts n' shite
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:43 pm to 14&Counting
I don't really understand why the Stephen A thing is being taken as a negative about Alabama. Stephen A is frustrated AJ doesn't have an NBA job. He thinks the NBA is treating AJ differently because he is black. Really doesn't have anything to do with Alabama other than we are the job that he had to "settle" for, and SAS would consider "settling" being any job in our conference outside of UK, Florida and maybe Arkansas?
All I take from that is we stole a guy who is coaching below his pay grade so to speak. Ain't going to complain about that.
All I take from that is we stole a guy who is coaching below his pay grade so to speak. Ain't going to complain about that.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:44 pm to JuiceTerry
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You realize that you are talking about a coach that got beat in the NBA FINALS, yes?
It's unbelievable how silly some folks are being about this, tbh
From 1999-2010, the only teams to win the Western conference were the Spurs and the Lakers.
Except for one year: 2006, when AJ was coaching the Mavs.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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It's unbelievable how silly some folks are being about this, tbh From 1999-2010, the only teams to win the Western conference were the Spurs and the Lakers. Except for one year: 2006, when AJ was coaching the Mavs.
Yea, I don't get it. I'm not going to argue that AJ is an elite NBA coach, but this idea that he was a miserable failure of a coach in the NBA because he didn't succeed with the NETS is just hysterical. I know most of these people don't watch or know much about the NBA but goodness gracious.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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It's unbelievable how silly some folks are being about this, tbh
From 1999-2010, the only teams to win the Western conference were the Spurs and the Lakers.
Except for one year: 2006, when AJ was coaching the Mavs.
It really is freaking hilarious to hear people criticize AJ's record when he was in the same division as San Antonio and the Lakers. Not mention the Suns....
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:50 pm to 14&Counting
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It really is freaking hilarious to hear people criticize AJ's record when he was in the same division as San Antonio and the Lakers. Not mention the Suns....
His first year they beat a 50+ win Houston team in round 1 and lost in 6 to a 62 win Phoenix team in round 2.
His second year they beat a 49 win Grizzlies team in round 1, a 63 win Spurs team in round 2 and a 54 win Suns team in round 3 before losing in 6 games to the Heat in the Finals.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:56 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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He beat the defending champs on the road to get there.
After blowing a 3-1 series lead and needing OT after blowing a huge halftime lead in game 7.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:59 pm to Dr RC
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After blowing a 3-1 series lead and needing OT after blowing a huge halftime lead in game 7.
Against the perennial juggernaut known as the San Antonio Spurs at the height of their powers, yes
Also going up against his old longtime coach who knew him inside and out in Gregg Popovich.
And he still won.
Failing to see the negatives here, broski. And you know I HATE talking about that series
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:59 pm to Dr RC
So your point is that he won the series against the defending champs.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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His second year they beat a 49 win Grizzlies team in round 1, a 63 win Spurs team in round 2 and a 54 win Suns team in round 3
That was the 3rd straight year the Grizz were swept in the first round and that Suns team was missing an injured Amare.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I was totally content and happy at the possibility of the Hawks hiring him when Woodson was fired. I was really pissed when they decided to stay in-house and hire Drew instead.
Now, clearly all of that was for the best now that Coach Bud is around, but this idea that he is some sort of NBA loser who everyone in the league thinks of as a chump is such a "no NBA knowledge" opinion.
Now, clearly all of that was for the best now that Coach Bud is around, but this idea that he is some sort of NBA loser who everyone in the league thinks of as a chump is such a "no NBA knowledge" opinion.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:02 pm to Dr RC
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That was the 3rd straight year the Grizz were swept in the first round and that Suns team was missing an injured Amare.
I remember, it was Fratello's only year there (outside of the disaster the next season) after Hubie left. Also, didn't Amare miss the entire season anyway? He played like 3 games. That will still a really good Suns team even without him.
Again, nobody is arguing he is Coach Bud, Pop or one of the Van Gundy brothers, but also isn't Larry Drew or Randy Whitman.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:03 pm to JuiceTerry
He didn't win shite. He got lucky his supremely talented team bailed him out of his lack of adjustments.
The dude was gifted a team that had won 50+ several years in a row. It's not like he built them up.
The Mavs were a completely moronic foul by Manu from blowing a 3-1 lead and a huge halftime lead to the Spurs b/c he sucked at adjusting. Avery is a "this is what we are going to do and that's that" coach.
He is the equivalent of a football coach that runs up the gut 3 times in a row for no gain and then does it again on 4th down b/c damn it all to hell that's the offense he wants.
The dude was gifted a team that had won 50+ several years in a row. It's not like he built them up.
The Mavs were a completely moronic foul by Manu from blowing a 3-1 lead and a huge halftime lead to the Spurs b/c he sucked at adjusting. Avery is a "this is what we are going to do and that's that" coach.
He is the equivalent of a football coach that runs up the gut 3 times in a row for no gain and then does it again on 4th down b/c damn it all to hell that's the offense he wants.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yup.
Or an embittered fan opinion.
Or an embittered fan opinion.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:06 pm to Dr RC
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He didn't win shite. He got lucky his supremely talented team bailed him out of his lack of adjustments. The dude was gifted a team that had won 50+ several years in a row. It's not like he built them up. The Mavs were a completely moronic foul by Manu from blowing a 3-1 lead and a huge halftime lead to the Spurs b/c he sucked at adjusting. Avery is a this is what we are going to do and that's that coach. He is the equivalent of a football coach that runs up the gut 3 times in a row for no gain and then does it again on 4th down b/c damn it all to hell that's the offense he wants.
His results were pretty dang similar to what Carlisle has done the last 7 years minus finally winning the whole thing in 2011. 3 1st round exits, 1 conference final, 1 NBA Title, 1 missed playoffs. Are you in the group that wants Carlisle gone? I've always thought he was pretty good. He definitely has a different roster than his first few years and AJ's years due to age and management decisions now.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:06 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Just trying to help all you ranters out so you can get on board and not look like fools by trying to pretend like this is anything other than a great hire.
so some in the media think it's great (despite no evidence), and we're supposed to be shaking in our little space boots.
Got it.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:07 pm to Tuscaloosa
Do you think Avery will have any recruiting effect in the New Orleans area? It would be great to steal a couple of those Lsu recruits.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:09 pm to Dr RC
He does all of that so poorly that he was named the best coach on the planet. Meh, I guess Bama will take him.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:09 pm to nolatide33
Has this become official yet? When is the presser?
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