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re: Malzahn will finish with a winning record against Saban
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:12 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:12 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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What a shitty troll attempt. Figures
yeah, that comment was slinging shite at a wall and seeing what would stick.
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:13 pm to chattabama
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When we have a Greg Mc or JPW type back at quarterback, we will go back to what Bama does best, ground and pound.
yeah, lets just forget about the QB who won two titles.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:15 pm to diddydirtyAubie
let me point out something else. Gus has never had a starting qb in college for back to back seasons.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:15 pm to chattabama
quote:Saban hasn't proven he can beat Gus as a HC. He also hasn't proven he can't handle HUNH teams week in and week out and the league is filling up with them. He also hasn't proven he can win constantly without a substantial talent advantage over the teams he plays and the other SEC teams are stacking up too.
Until proven otherwise, Gus Malzahn = Brian Kelly.
By your logic then until Saban proves he can beat Gus as a HC. Gus > Saban
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:16 pm to Rabern57
Brian Kelly wouldn't have won the SEC in 2012 even if Bama wasn't in the conference.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:22 pm to Rabern57
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Saban hasn't proven he can beat Gus as a HC. He also hasn't proven he can't handle HUNH teams week in and week out and the league is filling up with them. He also hasn't proven he can win constantly without a substantial talent advantage over the teams he plays and the other SEC teams are stacking up too.
By your logic then until Saban proves he can beat Gus as a HC. Gus > Saban
This is staggeringly stupid.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:24 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Not necessarily. Look at the programs that have been to the BCSNCG and lost since the SEC streak. Where are they now? Have they been back to prominence? Did they go on to win the big game the next year?
2007:
Florida vs. Ohio State: Ohio State returns to the BCS, but once again cannot win it.
2008
Ohio State vs. LSU: Ohio State hasn't been back to the title game since.
2009
Florida vs. Oklahoma: OU hasn't been back to the title game since.
2010
Alabama vs. Texas: Texas has not sniffed the title game.
2011
Oregon vs. Auburn: Oregon hasn't been back to the title game
2012
Alabama vs. LSU: LSU has had some mediocre seasons afterward.
2013
Alabama vs. Notre Dame: Notre Dame had a subpar year after going undefeated in the regular season.
What makes you so sure that AU will follow up this season with a title appearance? I think AU will be decent, but to pencil them in for the title game because of one great year isn't realistic. In the same way as one cannot say that Malzahn will have a winning record over Saban because of one game that ended on a flukish play.
Au had a great year. Congrats on the title appearance, but that is not indicative of future performance.
2007:
Florida vs. Ohio State: Ohio State returns to the BCS, but once again cannot win it.
2008
Ohio State vs. LSU: Ohio State hasn't been back to the title game since.
2009
Florida vs. Oklahoma: OU hasn't been back to the title game since.
2010
Alabama vs. Texas: Texas has not sniffed the title game.
2011
Oregon vs. Auburn: Oregon hasn't been back to the title game
2012
Alabama vs. LSU: LSU has had some mediocre seasons afterward.
2013
Alabama vs. Notre Dame: Notre Dame had a subpar year after going undefeated in the regular season.
What makes you so sure that AU will follow up this season with a title appearance? I think AU will be decent, but to pencil them in for the title game because of one great year isn't realistic. In the same way as one cannot say that Malzahn will have a winning record over Saban because of one game that ended on a flukish play.
Au had a great year. Congrats on the title appearance, but that is not indicative of future performance.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:28 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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yeah, lets just forget about the QB who won two titles.
I think it is safe to say that Bama went away from its identity because of having a much better quarterback. I remember listening to the SECCG halftime where the reporter interviewed Nick Saban and he said "We have to run the ball more." Nuss fell in love with the passing game and sometimes did balance for the sake of balance even when the running game was dominating.
To say that I think Bama will be better because we will rely on Derrick Henry et. al the same way we relied on Mark Ingram to get us to the BCSNCG in 2009 is not unrealistic.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:30 pm to chattabama
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In the same way as one cannot say that Malzahn will have a winning record over Saban
Sure I can and I did.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:34 pm to chattabama
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What makes you so sure that AU will follow up this season with a title appearance? I think AU will be decent, but to pencil them in for the title game because of one great year
I didn't say any of that shite.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:55 pm to FourThreeForty
quote:And yet they came into the Iron Bowl ranked at or near the top in every defensive category, had held 9 of their previous 11 opponents to 1 offensive TD or less, and despite allowing 66 points and 800+ yards in their last two games still finished #5 In total defense and #4 in scoring, better than any other team in the nation's best conference.
Alabama's secondary and entire defense in general was shite this year compared to past years and everyone in the goddam country knows that.
quote:Actually, your 2005 defense was #2 in total defense and #1 in scoring nationally that year, and was statistically superior to all but a couple of Saban's squads. They were better than not only the '13 edition, but the BCS champion 2012 team as well.
But Auburn was playing a pedestrian Alabama defense at best. Only slightly better in my mind than the 2005 defense. Maybe equal.
Stop kidding yourself. Prior to the IB, it was unquestionable that Bama had the best defense in the nation. After the Sugar Bowl they were still the best in the SEC by a significant margin. Trying to pass them off as "pedestrian" in an apparent effort to diminish AU's performance against them is specious at best.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:57 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Interesting. Shall we also extrapolate what he has done against LSU? 
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:00 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Would you say Malzahn is a better head coach than Chizik and Tubs
No, he's better at getting miracles though.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:17 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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By the end of Saban's career Malzahn will have a winning record. Agree or Disagree?
I agree. no way malzahn stays longer than a year and I figure you all should beat them next year.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:18 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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By the end of Saban's career Malzahn will have a winning record. Agree or Disagree?
Agree.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:29 pm to FearlessFreep
Watch a few of Alabama's full games. Besides the Iron Bowl. You'll observe that besides Landon Collins and occasionally eddie Jackson and on RARE occasions Deion belue, the secondary was completely awful. What about that schedule all you Aubies always talk about this year? It wasn't a very hard schedule. LSU was pretty much a cakewalk unlike they've been in previous years and Ole Miss was in over their heads. Miss State was our TOUGHEST game this year outside of A&M. Shoot, I also forgot about VT. Another sub-par team.
WHAT?!
Statistics are solid arguments always. But if you use the eye test, Alabama's defense and AT LEAST the secondary which you'd definitely have to admit, was like I said, pedestrian at best. Moseley being a god among men in that group. No pass rush either beside CJ and actually A'Shawn and J Allen, a few freshmen.
Auburn played one of Saban's worst teams (outside 2007) since he has been here. It might not seem like it since they were undefeated for the longest time. This whole post will be flamed I know but I'm sticking to my guns on this one because I know for a fact it is right.
Also to note, Colorado State gave us a hell of a game for 2-3 quarters if I remember correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong
WHAT?!
Statistics are solid arguments always. But if you use the eye test, Alabama's defense and AT LEAST the secondary which you'd definitely have to admit, was like I said, pedestrian at best. Moseley being a god among men in that group. No pass rush either beside CJ and actually A'Shawn and J Allen, a few freshmen.
Auburn played one of Saban's worst teams (outside 2007) since he has been here. It might not seem like it since they were undefeated for the longest time. This whole post will be flamed I know but I'm sticking to my guns on this one because I know for a fact it is right.
Also to note, Colorado State gave us a hell of a game for 2-3 quarters if I remember correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:35 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Not saying it won't happen, but to base all his accomplishments with the Auburn offense solely on the capability of the quarterback is pretty weak imo. If you think Nick Marshall won the game for Auburn this year, you are out of your mind.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:40 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
Auburn fans are the fricking worst. They had a decent team last year and made the BCSNCG because two uga DBs are dumbasses and auburn won on a play that was nothing short of miraculous. Then they beat Bama on a play that I can't ever recall seeing a game end on before in history and now they act like Gus Malzan is the Jesus Christ of tackle football
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:40 pm to FourThreeForty
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Saban hasn't proven he can beat Gus as a HC. He also hasn't proven he can't handle HUNH teams week in and week out and the league is filling up with them. He also hasn't proven he can win constantly without a substantial talent advantage over the teams he plays and the other SEC teams are stacking up too.
Saban has lost 9 games in six years, two to LSU and once to SCar. So he has lost 6 HUNH games in 6 years. It is also worth noting ALA hasn't lost to a team that finished outside the top 10 or didn't win the division (SCAR) in 6 years. That's pretty crazy.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:44 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
quote:If you think he wasn't a big part of it, you are. He made the play that tied the game in the last minute and had the WR not dropped a wide open TD pass earlier, we would have taken the lead and won.
If you think Nick Marshall won the game for Auburn this year, you are out of your mind.
Its funny how Bama fans twist things anyway they can to not give anyone credit but themselves. Even when they lose.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 3:49 pm
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