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re: Mack Brown says he will never recover from Bama loss

Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:02 am to
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Saban was more conservative on offense the rest of the game b/c it had appeared that Texas could not move the ball at all on offense with the other QB in.


My point is this: I think Texas would have been up 14-0. That is debatable of course, but I think McCoy would have got them in from the goalline and scored again starting from the Bama 20 or whatever on the 2nd possession. I think if Bama did not answer quickly, they would have tried to pass more which was a disaster all night. Gmac had zero chance against the Texas rush all night. Playing from behind would have been HUGE trouble for Bama IMO.

Anyway, all conjecture, and who knows. I will always think that game would have had a different outcome if McCoy had played and as fans we were robbed of a great game IMO.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:02 am to
Id be upset also if I was Brown. He had Saban playing scared in the 1st qt and doing things out of character.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:03 am to
I hate Alabama, but I hate Texas that much more. Alabama let off the gas in that game. Hell, that ginger qb only had to throw the ball 11 times to beat Texas by 16 (don't remember the final score)? I agree with every national media personality that said, with or without Colt, Alabama would have won. They dicked around in the second half and let Texas get back into it. Well, when they finally realized that, they "turned the jets on" again and crushed Gilbert Grape causing a fumble and eventually a TD. Just like that....BOOM! Ballgame.

Just take a look at this Tejas fans...we know you envy it so much...
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:09 am to
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Am I the only one with a big grin on their face after reading this story? Mack Brown is such a pussy.


Probably not, but I'm not one of them. Some people like to revel in other peoples sorrow and misery in order to feel better about themselves. I guess you are one of them. FWIW, Saban looked the exact same way after the SEC championship game in 08.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:09 am to
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Alabama let off the gas in that game. Hell, that ginger qb only had to throw the ball 11 times to beat Texas by 16 (don't remember the final score)?


1. The ginger had no chance throwing. More pass attempts would probably have lost the game even with no McCoy. I repeat, Bama had no chance throwing and did the only thing they could, run.

2. Cmon, that 16 is very misleading and everyone knows it.

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I agree with every national media personality that said, with or without Colt, Alabama would have won


bullshite. Many articles said what if and questioned if Texas was still the better team.

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They dicked around in the second half and let Texas get back into it.


They ran the ball because passing was resulting in sacks, and worse almost every play.

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they "turned the jets on" again and crushed Gilbert Grape causing a fumble


Against a freshman qb on a nice blindside hit, but one McCoy may have avoided by getting rid of the ball or being more aware.
Posted by BlueIndian420
Member since Feb 2010
1876 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:13 am to
We won did we not....We knocked him out did we not...This argument is so stupid. I have had it 1000 times since the game was over. The if game is fun for rivals though.
This post was edited on 2/21/10 at 11:15 am
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:14 am to
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It was about to be 14 to 0, and Saban's gameplan was about to be in big trouble is what I think.



He was hurt on the first series and all they got was a 3 at best with him it would have been 7-0. The game plan was not what got us in trouble to begin with it was the bad ST plays. It was not about to be 14-0 with him in there though.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:14 am to
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Tiger n Miami AU83
I guess you don't realize how silly it is to try and predict what Texas would have done if Colt had played. To say with all the confidence in the world that this or this would have happened is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:16 am to
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....We knocked him out did we not


No. That retard Marcel Dareus knocked McCoy out.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:17 am to
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I guess you don't realize how silly it is to try and predict what Texas would have done if Colt had played. To say with all the confidence in the world that this or this would have happened is absolutely ridiculous.


I agree, but I am not saying I know what would happen. That is just my opinion and much like a guess. Really, the only point here is we will never know what would have happened and who the better team really was and that is what probably eats at Mack Brown the most. There will never be another chance to play the game and with all that goes into getting to that game, it is disappointing to never know.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:17 am to
So we resort to name calling...cool
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:18 am to
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1. The ginger had no chance throwing. More pass attempts would probably have lost the game even with no McCoy. I repeat, Bama had no chance throwing and did the only thing they could, run.


They had no chance throwing the first two series. They didn't even try after McCoy was knocked out of the game.

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bullshite. Many articles said what if and questioned if Texas was still the better team.


Many espn and cbs commentators still said that Alabama was the better team.

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They ran the ball because passing was resulting in sacks, and worse almost every play.


Why didn't Texas stack the line then and stop the run? Oh wait, they COULDN'T. Alabama beat them fair and square.

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Against a freshman qb on a nice blindside hit, but one McCoy may have avoided by getting rid of the ball or being more aware.


How they hell do you know he would have gotten rid of that ball? It was on his blindside.

Alabama 37 Texas 21
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:21 am to
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They ran the ball because passing was resulting in sacks, and worse almost every play.



we ran the ball because Texas couldnt stop it. we went to halfback dives in the second half because we had a huge lead. Aside from 2 blown coverages our defense stopped them. Either way this argumwent doesnt hold water because if we couldnt throw the ball then that makes us one deminsional. The ytook our passing game away thats fine and they still couldnt stop our one dimensional offense. Either way that translates into Bama being the better team. If their only weapon wasnt their qb then and Shipley maybe they could have done like us and moved the ball, but they couldnt Bama was better a much better TEAM. The only people who feel this way are Texas fans and people who just hate Bama. We made each other one dimensional and they couldnt stop us end of story.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:21 am to
It was an adjective.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:21 am to
Learn to read better or I will just ignore you. I said "may have". An experienced senior qb is more likely to sense the pressure and protect the ball than a true frosh. Hence my opinion of it being more likely is 100% legit.

You seem proud of that misleading score and seem to think it proves something though it is not what this is even about.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:27 am to
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we ran the ball because Texas couldnt stop it. we went to halfback dives in the second half because we had a huge lead. Aside from 2 blown coverages our defense stopped them. Either way this argumwent doesnt hold water because if we couldnt throw the ball then that makes us one deminsional. The ytook our passing game away thats fine and they still couldnt stop our one dimensional offense. Either way that translates into Bama being the better team. If their only weapon wasnt their qb then and Shipley maybe they could have done like us and moved the ball, but they couldnt Bama was better a much better TEAM. The only people who feel this way are Texas fans and people who just hate Bama. We made each other one dimensional and they couldnt stop us end of story.

Maybe if Texas is not going 3 and out every single possession, the Texas D is not on the field all night and dominates Bama like they did early on the first few series. Then maybe Texas wins 48-6 with McCoy.

Point again is we will never know who was better.
This post was edited on 2/21/10 at 11:28 am
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15181 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:32 am to
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Point again is we will never know who was better.



Maybe so....but we DO know who won the National Championship though. And in the end that is all that matters.
Posted by BlueIndian420
Member since Feb 2010
1876 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:36 am to
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Point again is we will never know who was better


We do however know who the more physical team was...We were the better team imo. I say that because we were the more complete team. Like you said earlier, we were struggling to throw the ball(whether it was McElroy's ribs or Texas). I think you would have to say that Texas was struggling to throw the ball too. Unlike Texas...if you shut down our pass game, we have a dominant run game. Texas was hand cuffed after Colt went down. I feel like our back up could have come in and done just fine. We were the more balanced and complete team and that was proven on Jan 7th.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:43 am to
Any time TenTex and TigerInMiami are are on the same side of a debate, I rest easy in knowing I'm on the CORRECT side...
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2577 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 11:45 am to
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If McCoy had played the entire game Texas would have won the game.
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I'm so sick of hearing this crap. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT! Saban's gameplan completely changed when he went down. It's just like LSU fans thinking that if the Int counted in the Bama game that Jarret Lee was somehow going to miraculously figure out how to move the ball down the field on Bama's defense.


IF, IF, IF.WHAT IF LSU and Auburn played and coached football as well as their fans play the WHAT IF game?

Does it help you cope with your disapointment when you constantly use hypothetical/alternative realities to deal with life? You should try and acknowledge reality, and accept what actually happenes in life. You're embarrasing yourselves.
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