re: Mac Jones 5th in NFL in passes over 20 yards

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go ahead and link me. i dont see anywhere in the espn stats where it shows how many passes a qb had that traveled over X yards in the air. you are the one making that claim, produce the stats

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You are going to have to go game by game and look it up. Keep in mind at least three of the 25 yards or longer passes were thrown by Hoyer or a WR with a trick play.

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You are going to have to go game by game and look it up.

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no im not, but i do now know you are just pulling that number out of your arse

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no they dont, they have the 5th lowest
30 Mac Jones NWE 3.0%
31 Kyler Murray ARI 2.9%
32 Teddy Bridgewater DEN 2.8%
33 Matt Ryan ATL 2.7%
34 Aaron Rodgers GNB 2.2%


Tell me you don't understand team drop rates without telling me you don't understand team drop rates

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here you go. denver and green bay have lower team drop rates than new england.


Passing
Tm G Cmp Att Yds Bats ThAwy Spikes Drops Drop%
? BadTh Bad% OnTgt OnTgt%
Miami Dolphins 12 306 460 2768 1 9 2 29 6.5% 69 15.4% 319 71.0%
Kansas City Chiefs 11 306 466 3195 4 23 0 27 6.1% 86 19.4% 347 78.3%
Carolina Panthers 12 241 412 2369 5 17 1 22 5.6% 72 18.3% 273 69.3%
Los Angeles Chargers 11 289 439 3089 11 9 1 24 5.6% 59 13.8% 306 71.3%
San Francisco 49ers 11 212 328 2576 8 10 2 17 5.4% 42 13.3% 231 73.1%
New York Giants 11 250 390 2493 5 14 1 20 5.3% 63 16.8% 261 69.6%
New Orleans Saints 11 201 343 2180 11 17 0 16 4.9% 52 16.0% 213 65.3%
Buffalo Bills 11 279 418 2981 10 16 0 19 4.7% 57 14.2% 288 71.6%
Detroit Lions 11 257 383 2141 2 16 3 17 4.7% 57 15.7% 272 74.7%
New York Jets 11 262 424 2697 9 10 0 19 4.6% 77 18.6% 279 67.4%
Los Angeles Rams 11 268 406 3178 7 2 0 18 4.5% 69 17.1% 281 69.6%
Indianapolis Colts 12 252 403 2662 5 13 0 17 4.4% 67 17.2% 258 66.2%
Minnesota Vikings 11 277 409 2934 3 11 3 17 4.3% 59 14.9% 286 72.4%
Washington Football Team 10 220 334 2249 5 5 2 14 4.3% 52 15.9% 259 79.2%
Philadelphia Eagles 12 213 354 2318 9 19 1 14 4.2% 45 13.5% 233 69.8%
Jacksonville Jaguars 11 233 400 2285 6 9 1 16 4.1% 81 20.8% 237 60.8%
Chicago Bears 11 187 310 1868 6 6 1 12 4.0% 62 20.5% 188 62.0%
Cincinnati Bengals 11 238 344 2680 7 7 2 13 3.9% 35 10.4% 257 76.7%
Tennessee Titans 12 258 392 2561 4 9 1 15 3.9% 61 16.0% 282 73.8%
Cleveland Browns 12 224 360 2484 4 11 2 13 3.7% 64 18.4% 237 68.3%
Pittsburgh Steelers 11 278 435 2623 6 5 1 16 3.7% 72 16.8% 298 69.5%
Baltimore Ravens 11 250 388 2671 8 7 4 14 3.7% 67 17.8% 257 68.2%
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11 316 466 3365 5 10 1 17 3.7% 81 17.8% 318 69.9%
Dallas Cowboys 11 291 422 3216 4 9 0 15 3.6% 52 12.6% 280 67.8%
Houston Texans 11 226 348 2052 8 14 2 12 3.6% 53 16.0% 230 69.3%
Arizona Cardinals 11 261 356 2815 5 13 0 12 3.5% 42 12.2% 287 83.7%
Las Vegas Raiders 11 278 413 3262 9 12 2 14 3.5% 59 14.8% 276 69.2%
Seattle Seahawks 10 189 286 2002 4 15 1 9 3.3% 42 15.6% 207 76.7%
Atlanta Falcons 11 258 392 2480 6 6 1 12 3.1% 58 15.1% 270 70.1%
New England Patriots 12 277 391 2880 5 9 1 11 2.9% 53 13.9% 280 73.5%
Denver Broncos 11 249 367 2461 5 13 0 10 2.8% 54 15.3% 258 72.9%
Green Bay Packers 12 271 414 2980 7 16 3 9 2.3% 67 17.0% 260 6

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Some real bums there.

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lol. same can be said when someone cherry picks an air yards stat trying to make it look like mac jones only dinks and dunks, when his stats are comparable to or better than the 2 qbs who played in the superbowl last year in that regard

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The fact that you go through game by game stats to find any tidbit of info to come discredit a player is really sad.

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No, most of the games were televised and when the Cult came on each week to brag about Jones I would look at those stats. It has turned into a weekly ritual and now the Cult searches me out.

Irons Puppet was right.

Just re-watched ALL the games. The only 4 completions I could find with 25+ air yards:

2:19 in 4th Qtr vs Dallas
9:56 in 4th Qtr vs New York Jets
9:39 in 1st Qtr vs LA Chargers
5:03 in 2nd Qtr vs Titans



The man knows his stuff!

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No, most of the games were televised and when the Cult came on each week to brag about Jones I would look at those stats. It has turned into a weekly ritual and now the Cult searches me out.

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yeah, but where are you looking at them? if you are saying you are going through the espn stats on the game, air yards are not in there, and on the play by play it only lists the completion yardage, not how far it went in the air. What you are saying doesnt make any sense, nor does that fact that the number you are throwing around hasnt changed in weeks, despite passes ive watched go more than 25 yards in the air past the LOS in recent games. There was one at 5:01 in the 2nd quarter against the Titans, 1st and 20 from the NE 36, mac threw it from the NE 26, ball was caught at the Ten 30. if you say air yards are vertical yards in the air past LOS, thats a 34 yarder, but for some reason it didnt increment your number. I think that you are lying about following this and are just mindlessly repeating something you heard or read somewhere.

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Mac > Burrow

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Except Burrow is making Cincy, while New England is making Mac.

Big difference.

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question, why 25 yards instead of the pretty universal definition of a deep pass being 20 yards past LOS?

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Why 20 ? Weak arm QBs can throw the ball 20 yards and if you watch defenses the Safeties line up a little less than 20 yards back, so the weak arms will try and throw somewhere in that yardage mark as the Safeties back peddle.