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re: LSU returns better team - how could they lose in Nov?
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:13 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:13 pm to narddogg81
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SU was not defending it, and if executed properly would have been a td. good play call, turned out wrong. happens all the time
There is less chance of a WR executing a pass properly than most plays though... that is the point and he proved it. He threw a terrible ball and let the DB catch up to make a play.
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Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:22 pm to arwicklu
As bad as the field kicking was the punting was equally as bad. punt from the 35 is a touch back I've never seen Bama pin a team inside the 5.
Playing field pisition is silly when the other team can't punt twice as far as you can. Wing probably had a 70 yrd punt in the first game.
Saban would have done better just going going for it. If Bama turns it over downs LSU was not a threat to sustain a drive and get into scoring position anyways.
Playing field pisition is silly when the other team can't punt twice as far as you can. Wing probably had a 70 yrd punt in the first game.
Saban would have done better just going going for it. If Bama turns it over downs LSU was not a threat to sustain a drive and get into scoring position anyways.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:23 pm to BhamDore
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As bad as the field kicking was the punting was equally as bad. punt from the 35 is a touch back I've never seen Bama pin a team inside the 5.
Playing field pisition is silly when the other team can't punt twice as far as you can. Wing probably had a 70 yrd punt in the first game.
Saban would have done better just going going for it. If Bama turns it over downs LSU was not a threat to sustain a drive and get into scoring position anyways.
Wasn't it first down? Or second?
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:27 pm to Tiger Authority
I'was referring to the long field goals. The WR pass was a good call just poorly executed. Reid just made a Hell of a play. Best Defensive player in the SEC and a quality kid. Wish he played for Bama.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:28 pm to BhamDore
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The WR pass was a good call just poorly executed
nah it was a bad play call. Even if no other safety could have made that play in the SEC, you were still playing LSU, and he still made the play.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:32 pm to BhamDore
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e never seen Bama pin a team inside the 5.
He put 11 of 36 inside the 20... it's better than giving a team the 35.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:32 pm to BhamDore
That was a great play. In truth, it was probably a reception by the Bama TE downed at the goaline but he made it look so close the ref had a tough call.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:33 pm to Garfield
Great logic there 
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:33 pm to Garfield
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In truth, it was probably a reception by the Bama TE downed at the goaline but he made it look so close the ref had a tough call.
settle troll the grownups are trying to have a discussion
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:34 pm to Tiger Authority
If executed properly he had an uncontested td. Why Brandon Gibson was even in the game is the question easily 5 WR better than him last yr. He dropped a td pass in the 2nd game also. Glad to see him graduate.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:35 pm to Burt Reynolds
Thanks friend.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:36 pm to Tiger Authority
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It wasn't executed properly because it wasn't a typical playcall. It wasn't thrown properly because it was a WR throwing the ball. It was a poor play call and was intercepted. The fact that he could have scored a touchdown doesn't change the fact that it was intercepted.
the fact that it was intercepted (in a very weird fashion), doesnt make it a bad play call. Even with the play going wrong, maze throwing a weak pass, gibson bringing the safety over, there was zero chance of it being an interception if williams A. doesnt initially catch it, B. fails to secure the ball properly, C. lets a 200lb safety take the ball from him. It was a freakish set of circumstances that its not reasonable to expect the coach calling the play (mcelwain in this instance) to be able to foresee. The worst case scenario for the play that could reasonably be expected to happen would be an incomplete pass. You cant just call every play that turns out poorly a bad call after the fact (well, you can, but its stupid). And its not as though that was the first time maze had ever thrown a pass. He played qb (among other positions) in high school and completed his only pass attempt for 20 yards in 2010.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:38 pm to narddogg81
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the fact that it was intercepted (in a very weird fashion), doesnt make it a bad play call.
Certainly not the only thing that makes it a bad play call but certainly the most evident. It was a bad play call even if the pass was simply incomplete. But the point is that it was intercepted, because you had a receiver throwing the football on the heels of a big play by Richardson and instead of riding your best player, you relied on a bum legged WR that can't throw to make a throw. bad call.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:48 pm to Tiger Authority
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Certainly not the only thing that makes it a bad play call but certainly the most evident. It was a bad play call even if the pass was simply incomplete. But the point is that it was intercepted, because you had a receiver throwing the football on the heels of a big play by Richardson and instead of riding your best player, you relied on a bum legged WR that can't throw to make a throw. bad call.
the fact that it was intercepted is irrelevant. all sorts of plays get intercepted. outlet passes get intercepted, screen passes get intercepted, out routes get intercepted, with a qb throwing the pass. so any pass that gets intercepted (or is incomplete) is by default a bad play call, because they could have run it instead? the pass was within maze's abilities (the ball hits williams in both freaking hands), it was complete surprise to lsu, and if not for strange circumstances, would have been an easy td. when do you call a trick play, when the other team expects it? its a gamble, and occasionally the gamble does not pay off. i would think an lsu fan of all people would get that, with as many strange play calls as miles has made throughout the years. its the same here. the same people who call it a bad call would be calling it genius if the play had been executed properly.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:57 pm to Drewbie
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If I was you, I would start over on this board and claim a new fandom.
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Nah. I'm good. Being an Arkansas fan is pretty nice at the moment
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:59 pm to narddogg81
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the fact that it was intercepted is irrelevant. all sorts of plays get intercepted. outlet passes get intercepted, screen passes get intercepted, out routes get intercepted, with a qb throwing the pass.
Yep, with a qb. This wasn't a qb so the odds it would be intercepted are exponentially increased. Considering the part of the game, the recent play by Richardson, and the home field, and it was dumb.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:00 am to narddogg81
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i would think an lsu fan of all people would get that, with as many strange play calls as miles has made throughout the years.
The big difference being LSU fans have always called Miles out on his bad and stupid play calls. You refuse to though with Saban.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:01 am to Tiger Authority
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nah it was a bad play call. Even if no other safety could have made that play in the SEC, you were still playing LSU, and he still made the play.
Right. And had Gibson run the right route there wouldn't have been a single LSU player within ten yards. A td catch and you could have stuck a fork in LSU.
You seem to respect LSU's team a lot more than Saban did. How many times did he set y'all up with great field position with those field goal tries? He was saying "come at me bro".
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:03 am to crimsonsaint
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Right. And had Gibson run the right route there wouldn't have been a single LSU player within ten yards. A td catch and you could have stuck a fork in LSU.
And if Shep wouldn't have fallen on the ground...
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You seem to respect LSU's team a lot more than Saban did. How many times did he set y'all up with great field position with those field goal tries? He was saying "come at me bro".
You seem to think my comments have anything to do with him at LSU. Nothing told me that a 50 yard field goal try meant "come at me bro." Quite the opposite. Same with the maze pass. Looked like tight butthole (in the negative sense, not the Workaholics sense) I'm scared to lose.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:13 am to Tiger Authority
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You seem to think my comments have anything to do with him at LSU.
What are you talking about?
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Looked like tight butthole (in the negative sense, not the Workaholics sense) I'm scared to lose.
Miles attempted (2) fgs in sixty minutes. That's the definition of a tight butthole. What happened to the mad hatter?
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