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re: LSU/Bama Rivalry?

Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:28 am to
The LSU fan base focuses way too much on Saban. Until they can get over their Saban-envy they will not be capable of a rivalry with the University.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:29 am to
I think there are 2 types of rivalries

1) The competition Rival: in this sense, Bama could be considered a rival because they're always going to be in competition with us for the West as long as they remain competitive

2) the hatred or "classic" rivalry: I think the only hatred for bama for a lot of LSU fans stems from the Saban thing or the fact that they had our number in Tiger Stadium for years. But the hatred rivalry needs to come from both sides. no matter how we feel about bama, bama doesnt HATE us like they do auburn and tenn.

I think bama (like auburn used to be when they were constantly battling us for the West) is a competition rival to LSU and vice versa. However, once either of these teams falls from grace, that rivalry will no longer be 2-sided

As far as a classic hatred rivalry, there's really only Tulane and Ole miss, but since they're not competitive, it doesnt feel like a real rivalry anymore
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Until they can get over their Saban-envy they will not be capable of a rivalry with the University.


This year guaranteed that will never happen completely. We take the good with the bad, I guess.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:29 am to
quote:

I swear just 7-8 years ago everyone talked about Auburn LSU being the premier SEC West matchup.


Ding ding ding.

quote:

Yall will never have a real rival. Deal with it.


It doesn't bother me. I think Texas A&M and LSU have the ability to get there though.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:31 am to
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I think Texas A&M and LSU have the ability to get there though.


I'm looking forward to that possibility. Should be some good games in a few years if A&M can recruit well enough.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:31 am to
We haven't been holding up our end of the rivalry. Sorry guys. We'll be back soon enough.
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
19456 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:32 am to
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What makes it not a rivalry?


It is not a rivalry until we say it is.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:32 am to
Ole Miss is definitely LSU's main rival, I'm not debating that. Auburn is up there and Alabama is up there, IMO. Tulane, was a rival in ancient history, who took their place?
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I think Texas A&M and LSU have the ability to get there though.


This has humongous potential!
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:33 am to
quote:

I think Texas A&M and LSU have the ability to get there though.



Possibly. IIRC there was always a good bit of bad blood there, especially over the series ending.

You need mutual hatred from the two respective fanbases to maintain a long term rivalry. Bama and LSU just don't have that.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:33 am to
quote:

What makes it not a rivalry?



Bama has a main rival in Auburn. They hate each other daily.

LSU-Bama while a good series in the last 15 years or whatever is just that, a good series.

LSU doesn't have a rival in the SEC. A&M may become that one day but not right now

inb4hogswannabearival4LSU
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30005 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Until they can get over their Saban-envy they will not be capable of a rivalry with the University.


There may be something between LSU and Saban but it sure as hell ain't envy
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55019 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:38 am to
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The LSU fan base focuses way too much on Saban. Until they can get over their Saban-envy they will not be capable of a rivalry with the University.


It's the only reason it is a rivarly right now...

and on that note: LSU will beat the Tide 3 straight seasons!

10-4 the last 14 games!...
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86867 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:39 am to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55019 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Bama has a main rival in Auburn. They hate each other daily.

LSU-Bama while a good series in the last 15 years or whatever is just that, a good series.

LSU doesn't have a rival in the SEC. A&M may become that one day but not right now

inb4hogswannabearival4LSU


Everybody gets up for the LSU game..

That's all you need to know..

Les Miles/LSU holds the best SEC record over the last 7 seasons
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:40 am to
These threads make me laugh.

Gumps keep telling themselves its not a rivalry even though CLM has an even W-L record vs. $abun. (That without the benefit of any same season rematches to bolster his win total.)


This no rivalry argument is about as ignorant as "The best loss argument"

Gumps!
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 11:41 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55019 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:41 am to
Laugh all you want...

Alabama is back to being Alabama only because of Nick Saban...

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86867 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:41 am to
quote:

LSU-Bama while a good series in the last 15 years or whatever is just that, a good series.
this exactly...
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30005 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:42 am to
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Alabama is back to being Alabama only because of Nick Saban...


Any Bama fan that disagrees with this is simply more retarded than the average Gump.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55019 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 11:43 am to
quote:

LSU-Bama while a good series in the last 15 years or whatever is just that, a good series.


this exactly...


The history is well documented...

But the last 15 games have been heavily in LSU's favor...

Alabama isn't winning the next contest in Baton Rouge...
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