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re: Let’s talk baseball post season

Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:46 pm to
While I'm not into the whole "Rebs must hate Dogs at all times and vice versa" narrative like many are (although I do hate Ole Miss with a passion while we're playing them and rarely ever pull for them), and while I agree that this thread is one of the hidden gems that keeps ya coming back for more in its quality, and while I think you are a reasonable & great UNM fan, I will say this:

I can see where peepingcrxxms is coming from. Our fanbase is rampant with the "poor ol msu" mentality (not saying the other guy is one), and that mentality gets tiring to those who don't want that chip on their own shoulder. Alot of it carries over from football, but even then, it's not the way to be. Occasionally I'll drop by elitedawgs and have a read, and it's a constant rift between the two factions. Just like I wouldn't understand all the ins and outs of another program because I gave my own culture at my own alma mater, most fans at other schools don't fully "get it."

Mangum & company have got to head to Oxford with calm focus, yet doggedly determined to sweep and nothing less. Baseball is one of the few games where psyching yourself out (in either direction) really can affect the final outcome. If they come in ready to swing at every pitch, followed by the next batter being too timid to work the count, then they'll certainly lose.

The target- the very big target at that- is on the Bulldogs in Oxford on May 10th, and their arch rival has good glass and a sharp crosshair ready to take the shot. It's a huge series, IMO, for future ramifications on the way the post season Bulldogs will play. Regardless of winning or losing, how they go into that series and come out of it will be a huge sign post of where we can expect to go thereafter, and how far.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Regardless of winning or losing, how they go into that series and come out of it will be a huge sign post of where we can expect to go thereafter, and how far.


Agreed 100%. This series could very well set the tone for the rest of the post season. I would like to think that Ole Miss is hitting its stride at exactly the right time and has already set their tone, having won 5 of its last 6 SEC games against quality opposition. Personally, I don't want the Rebels foaming at the mouth to avenge the perceived disrespect shown towards Ole Miss by at least one of your star players. I hope our team is quietly confident at the plate, and continues to hit the ball hard. win or lose, if we maintain the approach weve had for the past couple weeks, we will be fine come postseason
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Baseball is one of the few games where psyching yourself out (in either direction) really can affect the final outcome. I


This can come back to bite you if you are taking a sweep-or-bust mentality
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Mangum & company have got to head to Oxford with calm focus, yet doggedly determined to sweep and nothing less.



There’s a fine line between shooting to sweep versus shooting to not get swept. But with the way each team is playing, it really could go either way.

And at this point in the year, the downside to being swept is greater than the upside of sweeping, which is probably why the other poster is content to get at least one (on the road much less)
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:16 pm to
Definitely not a “poor old msu fan” ole miss and state are both playing good baseball. Top 15 road sec matchup. You might want to check your expectations? I would be more than happy with getting out of swayze lagoon with a win. Especially when outside of Mangum, the top half of our lineup was dreadful this past weekend. Ole Miss is an extremely talented team and it should be an extremely fun series (if weather holds).
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:24 pm to
No, I don’t need to check my expectations. Expecting a top 5 team to win every series they play is pretty standard for most fans in any sport anywhere. It does not mean that they are going to win every series, but it certainly means I’m not going to be “stoked” when they lose one. I guarantee you our coaches and players will not be happy if they lose this series, because they don’t have a loser mentality. They did not get to be good enough to be a national seed by having your loser mentality and they will be extremely pissed off if Ole Miss whips their arse. You keep talking Ole Miss up like they don’t have flaws. Every starting pitcher matchup favors us and we hit the ball just as good as they hit the ball. Check the batting averages. We just took 5 of the last 6 games against a top 5 and a top 20 team and whipped Ole Miss’ arse in between those 2 series. We aren’t slumping in any shape or form. Grow a set of balls.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:39 pm to
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Every starting pitcher matchup favors us and we hit the ball just as good as they hit the ball. Check the batting averages.


Ive already examined the stats for each squad. Both teams are top 3-5 in EVERY offensive category. State has 11 more hits on the season than Ole Miss (Jake Mangum is a once a decade type player), Rebels steal bases at a better clip than MSU, Bulldogs have hit 1 more homerun than Ole Miss, which surprised me, to be honest. Ole Miss has a staff ERA that is half a point better than State, with its alleged advantage in starting pitching which you brought up. that suprises me as well considering we couldn't get anyone out after the 6th inning yesterday...so I understand your confidence heading into the series with Ole Miss. Its being played in Oxford... forgive me if I am not scared of your 'national seed caliber team'. Ole Miss fielded one last season and several time in the recent past, so I am familiar with 'national seed caliber type teams..
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:47 pm to
I wasn’t talking to you, but it seems you may have forgotten to log out of your other screen name.

I actually respect your confidence. We whoop your team’s arse every year and you still won’t be happy with getting your arse whooped against your superior. Maybe your alter can take some notes.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:49 pm to
you don't understand...I was talking to YOU, in a thread where everyone is corresponding. You already know that I don’t have an alter, nor does your fellow State fan. I encourage you to be an adult, and not resort to sophomoric insults typical of most threads on the rant, for I was enjoying this quality thread
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:50 pm to
Oh I understand perfectly. I’m busting your balls.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:03 pm to
Wait you think im rebsontherise? That’s laughable. I hate ole miss as much as the next guy and tbqh don’t care enough to make an alt for my rival team. You might be just as bad as joshua.
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:06 pm to
No, I don’t think that. That joke, like every other piece of information in this thread went clearly over your head.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:09 pm to
Can we all be as close to the term "friends" as is humanly possible considering our alliegances to different schools?

its more fun that way, and less aggravating.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:11 pm to
I’m a lot closer to being your friend than his. At least you have some spunk. If we whip you this weekend I doubt you come on here happy about it. You’ll do the typical Ole miss thing and downplay it but you won’t be excited for a series loss and you wouldn’t if it were in Starkville either.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

There’s a fine line between shooting to sweep versus shooting to not get swept. But with the way each team is playing, it really could go either way. 

And at this point in the year, the downside to being swept is greater than the upside of sweeping, which is probably why the other poster is content to get at least one (on the road much less)



I smell what you're stepping in, and well said. Perhaps, though, you're focusing too much on the word "sweep," and possibly because it's my fault for using it.

I don't necessarily mean they ought to go into the series with a "sweep or die" attitude- you're correct on that- but they CANNOT go in with a defeatist, "poor ol MSU" mentality either. Again, calm focus and determination to win (scratch the word sweep) will make for a much better chance of them approaching the plate and field with positive results in a hostile environment that'll be anything but positive for them. The environment for them this weekend will in no way nurture the Bulldogs players to get their minds right if they aren't already. That's the uncommon denominator for the two: location.

State has very little "wiggle room" if they go into that park with a cattywampus mentality. I feel that this is a series where the rubber is gonna meet the road for MSU, regarding how they will play when they've got a good hand and when nobody is not believing in them. They've hit some strides in the year where I (any many others) perceived a sense of "But we've been so great, where's our pat on the back?" during and after games where they played anything but. And oftentimes the cause was not totally lost: You could visually see their resolve evaporating as the game and series progressed. Their will to "snap out of it and bounce back" when they could've and should've was gone, but they've gotten better, and they've shown they've still got it, and when they believe and have confidence, they can put a hurtin' on anybody. It's another reason why I love watching this awesome team, and why I'm adamant about them going to Oxford with the swagger and resolve to take licks and keep on fighting that I know they are capable of.

One thing is for sure: it will be very hard for them to turn the tide and take the battle back to the top of the hill if they go in as poor lil ol MSU. Nobody thinks that of us right now, but the folks at Swayze field would sure love to be the ones to set that narrative- more than anyone else in the country right now. Question for me is, win or lose, will we let them? They've got to go in knowing that they can compete, they should compete, and they're expected to compete; because there's no doubt in my mind that those boys who live in that house expect them to do just that.

I love this team, and they can beat anybody when they got their minds right, and I could be wrong bc I frequently am, but for me personally, there's just something different about this weekend. Some thing about it just reeks of the promised land, of Omaha, Nebraska, and not just for the boys in maroon and white either.
Posted by Hailstate15
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:36 pm to
Would the state of Mississippi crash and burn if both made it to Omaha and one won while the other didn’t? This weekend does feel like it will be one of the best series this season.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Would the state of Mississippi crash and burn if both made it to Omaha and one won while the other didn’t? 


RIP

Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:44 pm to
I get what you are saying.
make no mistake, Ole Miss is the decided underdog in this series. State is expected to win the series from college baseball analysts nationwide. The pressure will be on the Bulldogs to win at least 2.
all the intangibles (Home field, emotion, etc) favor the Rebels.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13239 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:20 pm to
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This aTm pitching staff scares the crap out of me. I'll be happy if the Hogs just get 1 win.

F that. I want a series win, and we are more than capable of doing that.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19067 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:30 pm to
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Tennessee is 10-14 in conference play, with 6 games left. if they finish 13-17 or 14-16, do you reckon they will still host?

Host no. Get in, maybe.
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