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re: Let’s Talk about “Private Equity”

Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:03 am to
Dude the conversation has moved so far above and past you, sit this one out.

You’re welcome to rock over there in the corner thinking others are obsessed with LSU
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:04 am to
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Private equity is alive, well, thriving, growing, and just as fricked up as it's ever been. Probably more so.
ok boss, identify me one recent deal that illustrates this.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
21349 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:06 am to
LOL that you think Jim Flores is LSU’s biggest booster

UGA fans will never get over losing to Ed Orgeron by 20+ points in consecutive seasons
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15363 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:15 am to
Bain Capital buys Gong cha bubble tea chain

- 17 hours ago
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
907 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:15 am to
This is all just inane

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brainless roll up strategies
What’s dastardly to the company or unsustainable about rolling up fractured markets? This was literally the corporate conglomerate playbook from the 60-70’s. It’s the current playbook for basically every publicly-traded consumer products business (Coca-Cola, Colgate-Palmolive, General Mills, etc.), network owner (e.g. logistics operators, infra asset owners), and market maker (e.g. regional banks, consumer service providers, etc.)

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PE has always been the art of immediate wealth transfer from entrepreneurs to financial operators
You realize that entrepreneurs are (1) *private* *equity* themselves, (2) Mmgt teams often do a partial cash-out at sale to a PE firm, (3) roll the remainder of their ownership into the continuing entity, participating ratably with any PE owner, and (4) remain involved in the decision-making, strategy formation, and operational execution of the business, ESPECIALLY if it’s a business platform from which to execute a roll-up strategy

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dumping the investment either on public markets or other institutional investors with no concern or care about long term value creation
This is falsifiable by its nature: the “bag-holders” you cite, public markets and institutional investors, are themselves definitional long-term owners; they wouldn’t buy (read: “accept”) the company being sold or listed by the PE firm if there was not a solid set-up for long-term value stability (and value-creation)
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 11:19 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15363 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:20 am to
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the company being sold or listed by the PE firm if there was not a solid set-up for long-term value a stability


lmao

btw, these are always sold under a SPAC, which is not a long-term investment, and the market absolutely buys short term flip listings all the time.

I think you're conflating some dude on Fidelity with funds who are more than happy to flip their holdings in 6 months.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:22 am to
So the owner of the fast food chain where you work has committed himself to being the sugar daddy for LSU?

There’s having fun with $30k for Jell-O shots, there’s being stupid bankrolling the Brian Kelly buyout, and then there’s just lifetime regret signing up to enable the crack addict that is the LSU athletics program under Gov. Landry.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
907 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:25 am to
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btw, these are always sold under a SPAC, which is not a long-term investment
I should know posters on tRant would be 6 years behind reality, quoting a COVID-era fad as if that’s the baseline for the entire financial market across it’s history.

And no, you don’t build an IPO book, or any equity offering book, off of HFs looking to flip out of their holdings in 6 mos.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
907 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:27 am to
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Bain Capital buys Gong cha bubble tea chain - 17 hours ago
In your impulsive rush to respond, you missed the entire focus of this disagreement:

quote:

No Colors:
[PE is] just as fricked up as it's ever been. Probably more so.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 11:28 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15363 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:32 am to
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boogeyman that no longer exists


It was nonsense.

And you asked for examples. I gave one in the last day.

"Global Private Equity Investments in Restaurants More Than Double in 2025, S&P Global"

From May.

Nothing has changed. PE is about short-term profit and yes, there's always a bag holder. You'd be hard-pressed to find a successful business emerging from PE even after re-aquisition.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27924 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:33 am to
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….lose money


When was the last time UGA football lost money?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15363 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:34 am to
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Corporate activist investors that would strip companies of assets and employees to pay down large borrowings of debt have been gone for 35 years


Restaurants are the easiest example, because they in fact have the most to strip. Other organizations have to shed expenses, mostly.

Extracting the most capital is the goal. Hence why PE forced Red Lobster to sell their land to a shell and then charged them rent for the properties. There's someone holding the bag there. Always.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72993 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:34 am to
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Every taxpayer of Louisiana (of which I am one) should be outraged by all of this.


It's funny how most of the posters with an LSU complex here seem to live in Louisiana.

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27924 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:35 am to
Now you’re telling billionaires what’s best?

LMAO!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48352 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:36 am to
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used to like LSU. Now I just feel sad for how addicted they’ve become and far they’ve fallen.


We dgaf about your feelings
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
907 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:40 am to
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Absolutely, 100% untrue.
K. Name me one.

Be sure to get it right this time:
• “Corporate activist”. Here are some to choose from: Carl Icahn, or Paul Singer (Elliott), or Bill Ackman (Pershing Square)
Strip assets and employees from the company to pay down large borrowings of debt: Tell me guy, what leverage can you get on a bear-hug takeover, or a take-private LBO? Show me the deals with break-up values in excess of enterprise value and overfunded pensions to raid.

Heck, just show me a transaction financing where you’re getting excess market leverage for less than the cost of equity.

Cost cutting, asset rationalization, de-levering, headcount rationalization via technology enablement are all fine tools in any company’s playbook. PE deals that utilize these tools to their detrimental excess and give the investment industry a bad reputation don’t exist anymore.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
907 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:42 am to
Still can’t read? You jumped in to answer another’s question and going on being wrong 3 times in a row.

Maybe just stop copy/pasting Google searches and practice your reading skills
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 11:58 am
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13725 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:42 am to
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ok boss, identify me one recent deal that illustrates this

Private equity investment in the US is estimated at $1.2 trillion in 2026. That's up from $850 billion in 2024.

Private equity is doing just fine.
Posted by Furlong the Red
My Castle,TX
Member since Dec 2022
957 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:47 am to
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Every taxpayer of Louisiana (of which I am one) should be outraged by all of this.



This taxpayer in Louisiana is telling you to frick off.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11248 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:50 am to
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I am gonna ignore everything else in your rambling post and focus on this.

Because this is simply not correct. Private equity is alive, well, thriving, growing, and just as fricked up as it's ever been. Probably more so.


Somewhat agree …. I’ve worked with PE throughout multiple corporate transitions in my career … granted, they were not sports entertainment businesses, but they all share a common thread.

PE are meddlers …. particularly in shyte they do not understand. They just cannot help themselves It never occurs to them that most business ideas have been tried many times before
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