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re: Les Miles on schedule disadvantage

Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:17 pm to
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First, Bama went 2-1 (Georgia, and they went 1-2).

Second, LSU still had to beat Alabama to make it matter. If LSU has one loss and Alabama is undefeated, and LSU wins, guess who goes to the SECCG. It doesn't matter. The road to Atlanta ran through Tuscaloosa, as long as you don't lose more than 1 game.


And right on cue, here is the tautology.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:17 pm to
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First, Bama went 2-1 (Georgia, and they went 1-2).


They don't teach reading at A&M?

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In the 2012 regular season


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LSU still had to beat Alabama to make it matter.


Not if the schedules were reversed and we had one loss and they had two.

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The road to Atlanta ran through Tuscaloosa, as long as you don't lose more than 1 game.


It's easier not to lose more than 1 when you only play 2 instead of 4.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57010 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:18 pm to
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I am not the one making an illogical argument


the fact that you can't see it leads me to believe you are either obtuse or a blind homer
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Oh but Bama is the best anyways so its all for naught."


please show me this, please
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

SEC East:
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn

SEC West:
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
LSU
MS State
Ole Miss
TX A&M
Missouri
Vanderbilt

teams moved in bold

That solves a lot of problems, but here comes the bitching from the other side.


We just can't win. Somebody is always going to bitch.

SECtards!!! QUIT BITCHING AND BEAT THE frick OUT OF EVERYBODY!!!
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9849 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Well LSU has gotten slapped across the face by the "rotation" for three years in a row now. When does the rotation favor us? Bear in mind we played one of the most difficult schedules in CFB history in 2011, and will do so again in 2013.


bullshite! 3 years ago was 2011 and LSU had an easy rotation. LSU played KENTUCKY, UT and a down UF.

The year before LSU played UT Vandy and a down UF.

It just happens to be LSU turn at the better SECE teams. Deal with it like all the other teams do in the SEC when they get a tough rotation draw.

UT and AU have consistently had the hardest cross division opponents for the past 5 years with Bama and UGA. Don't hear them bitching about having the best team from the other division Every Year!
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:19 pm to
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the fact that you can't see it leads me to believe you are either obtuse or a blind homer



My argument is perfectly logical.
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
856 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:20 pm to
I thought this whole argument over the current schedule was about "schedule inequalities"?
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schedule inequalities


so does making the divisions more geographically correct and allowing those schools who demand that they play other schools each year do so make the schedules more inequal?
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:20 pm to
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Well LSU has gotten slapped across the face by the "rotation" for three years in a row now. When does the rotation favor us?


Well 2011 was a very tough schedule for you guys but let's look at the East opponents since that is the gripe:

5-7 Kentucky
5-7 Tennessee
7-6 Florida

Yep.....Birmingham fricked you hard that year.

2010:
2-10 Vandy
6-7 Tennessee
8-5 Florida

Damn......fricked again
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36297 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:22 pm to
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It just happens to be LSU turn at the better SECE teams. Deal with it like all the other teams do in the SEC when they get a tough rotation draw.


Or get the SEC office to skip your tough draw when it comes up like Bama did. When people point this out, deflect, deflect, deflect.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:22 pm to
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What's the long run? The only time it's been relevant is since we started having divisions. That was 21 seasons ago. Florida has dominated the East in ridiculously overwhelming fashion over that time. 21 years isn't the long run yet?


Pretty sure UT, SC, and Georgia have been pretty good in that time frame as well.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:22 pm to
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LSU went 2-3 against Florida
quote:

Yeah, Saban got owned by Florida while at LSU.
So then Miles is getting owned by Saban/'bama then?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:22 pm to
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And right on cue, here is the tautology.

Were?

It is a fact that LSU could have one loss and still make it to Atlanta. Bama proved they could still have one loss and make it to Atlanta.

Lose to Florida and beat Alabama and you go to Atlanta.

Lose to Alabama and beat Florida and you have to hope two other teams beat Alabama or no Atlanta for you.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6839 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:23 pm to
k so when is Alabamas turn?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:23 pm to
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you played UK, Vandy and UT in the past three years


We played 8 games against the east in those three years, and we had these four "easy" ones (UT twice).

Alabama had almost that many against Tennessee alone. Plus Missouri last year and two more coming up this year. Six out of 10 East games over four years against crap teams. LSU plays four out of 10, but somehow that's OK for the guy who said not taking 4th place SEC East finisher Georgia off of Auburn's 2006 schedule would have been unfair if National Champion Florida were removed from LSU's. What a piece of work you are.

Not to mention stretching it back to 2011 to pick up two of the four for us, when it's the BRIDGE schedules (2012, 2013) that are being discussed here. You're a joke.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

SEC East:
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn

SEC West:
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
LSU
MS State
Ole Miss
TX A&M
Missouri
Vanderbilt



I freaking love it every time some LSU fan posts this realignment proposal with a straight face. It completely discredits any and all arguments they make that they simply want things to be fair.

quote:

What are objective arguments against this?


Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Not to mention to pick up two of the four for us
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stretching it back to 2011
Such a LOOOOOONNGGGG time ago.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57010 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:27 pm to
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My argument is perfectly hommeristic


I agree
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36297 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:27 pm to
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quote:
LSU went 2-3 against Florida
quote:
Yeah, Saban got owned by Florida while at LSU.
So then Miles is getting owned by Saban/'bama then?



Heres the scores in those games
2000 Florida 41–9
2001 Baton Rouge, LA Florida 44–15
2002 Gainesville, FL LSU 36–7
2003 Baton Rouge, LA Florida 19–7
2004 Gainesville, FL LSU 24–21


In our NC season saban got beat by a 8-5 UF team at home by a Zook coached team with a true freshman qb. By the other scores I think you can understand why we say UF owned Saban at LSU. Mind you in 2004 we had a future number 1 draft pick at qb who saban started Marcus Randall over. I digress.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

k so when is Alabamas turn?


Coming up, we will draw Georgia and USC over 2014 and 2015 while y'all will draw Mizzou Vandy or Kentucky.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:28 pm to
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I freaking love it every time some LSU fan posts this realignment proposal with a straight face. It completely discredits any and all arguments they make that they simply want things to be fair.


No, it's simply exposing the hypocrisy of the Bama position. Either tradition is most important, or fairness is. You sacrifice fairness (in your favor) for tradition to keep your annual cakewalk with Tennessee, but when another proposal does the same (but to your disadvantage in the fairness department), you suddenly think it's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:31 pm
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