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re: Les Miles on schedule disadvantage
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:22 am to Monticello
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:22 am to Monticello
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12 LSU could not beat Alabama, Florida, or Clemson. So SEC scheduling had nothing to do with LSU not winning a national title in any of those seasons.
Trade schedules LSU and Bama LSU goes 11-1 and Bama goes 10-2.
Clemson was inexcusable but was due to poor effort by out going players-as admitted by Montgomery. After the NC was gone the team gave up.
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:23 am to spacewrangler
The Georgia-Mizzou game pretty musch sums it up. I'm quite sure we would have controlled the line of scrimmage quite easily against Mizzou.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:24 am to spacewrangler
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Bama would've curb stomped UF last year.
Really? Florida dominated their game with Georgia and only lost because they made a bunch of turnovers. They held Georgia to maybe 10 offensive points. You had to make a miraculous comeback to beat Georgia and still had to hold them off at the five yard line to win. You allowed 28 points to Georgia. Florida also beat LSU more convincingly than you did. As in, they actually legitimately beat us, while you needed us to hand you the game on a platter. Oh, and they also beat some new team in the conference. On the road. A team that beat you in Tuscaloosa. There is absolutely no basis for claiming Alabama would have had an automatic W playing at Florida last year.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:24 am to Nuts4LSU
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We were in 2006, when we beat Arkansas.
So if you take out the "hard" permanents you would have still been behind Auburn, right, since we beat you
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:25 am to Monticello
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I highly doubt Alabama loses to Florida. I guess we would never know, just like we don't know that Miles would not make some huge coaching error and lose to UT or Mizzou like he did against Ole Miss and should have against UT a few years ago.
What from bamas season indicates to you that you would come out with less than 2 losses vs a stretch of UF, USC, TAMU LSU?
Is it the fact that you couldnt get it up at home vs TAMU?
Or maybe it was the SEC CG with UGA, a team USC destroyed, choking?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:28 am to NYCAuburn
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We were in 2006, when we beat Arkansas.
So if you take out the "hard" permanents you would have still been behind Auburn, right, since we beat you
No. If Arkie played Florida OR we didn't, LSU would likely have won the division.
Arkie plays UF, loses, finishes 6-2 in a 3-way tie with LSU and Auburn. Head to head decides nothing, nor does division record. BCS rankings decide it (LSU was highest at 4th, not sure what AU and Arkie were)
LSU doesn't play UF, beats South Carolina instead (as Arkie did), LSU finishes 7-1 and tied with Arkie. LSU goes on head to head.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:28 am to Nuts4LSU
Please continue talking about how an LSU team that lost to Alabama, Florida, and Clemson would have won a national title if not for the SEC office being in Birmingham. The non LSU fans are really enjoying this.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:29 am to Monticello
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Please continue talking about how an LSU team that lost to Alabama, Florida, and Clemson would have won a national title if not for the SEC office being in Birmingham. The non LSU fans are really enjoying this.
Please continue to deflect. Your insecurity is showing.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:29 am to PrivatePublic
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LSU is going to whine about scheduling as long as they have to play Bama every year.
You are an idiot. How can you honestly say that it is fair for the powers that be take Georgia off Alabama's 2013 schedule and replace them with Kentucky, but then make LSU play Georgia instead. It's bullshite and everyone with any common sense can see it and see what's going on. Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:30 am to Nuts4LSU
oh so we can take out florida for LSU but not UGA for Auburn. seems legit 
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:30 am to CP3LSU25
Here's my proposal to make Les happy:
On October 12, 2013, Bama will travel to the Swamp and play UF instead of @UK. LSU will travel to UK that weekend.
On October 26, 2013, Furman will travel to Bama instead of LSU, and Tennessee will go to LSU instead of Bama.
Result:
Florida is now pissed because they have to play a harder team.
UK is pissed because they don't get a shot at the big boys. Or maybe their happy because now they have a shot at winning the game.
Tennessee is pissed because they are obsessed with Bama and want to play them ever game, but they welcome the break.
And Furman? Who gives a frick about them?
On October 12, 2013, Bama will travel to the Swamp and play UF instead of @UK. LSU will travel to UK that weekend.
On October 26, 2013, Furman will travel to Bama instead of LSU, and Tennessee will go to LSU instead of Bama.
Result:
Florida is now pissed because they have to play a harder team.
UK is pissed because they don't get a shot at the big boys. Or maybe their happy because now they have a shot at winning the game.
Tennessee is pissed because they are obsessed with Bama and want to play them ever game, but they welcome the break.
And Furman? Who gives a frick about them?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:31 am to Monticello
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Please continue talking about how an LSU team that lost to Alabama, Florida, and Clemson would have won a national title if not for the SEC office being in Birmingham
Who said anything about a national title? There is no telling who would have won the SECCG between LSU and UGa. The division title is another story. If LSU and Bama had traded schedules last year, LSU would have won the West, period.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:32 am to Nuts4LSU
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LSU doesn't play UF, beats South Carolina instead (as Arkie did), LSU finishes 7-1 and tied with Arkie. LSU goes on head to head.
and if Auburn doesn't play UGA and plays USC, we own the head to head with LSU
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:33 am to Jobu93
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LSU would have beaten Oklahoma State.
Aww. You mean LSU does not get to handpick who they play in the national title game? You mean they have to play the #2 ranked team in the nation in the national title game?
Only LSU fans would whine not only about who they have to play in the SEC but also who they have to play in a national title game. Besides, on that particular night, if LSU showed up as unprepared and poorly coached as Miles had them that night, OSU would have blown them out possibly worse than Alabama did.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:35 am to NYCAuburn
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LSU doesn't play UF, beats South Carolina instead (as Arkie did), LSU finishes 7-1 and tied with Arkie. LSU goes on head to head.
and if Auburn doesn't play UGA and plays USC, we own the head to head with LSU
I agree the what if game from years ago is dumb. There was a permanent rotation with no manipulation. Yes year in year out we will have a tougher east opponent, but thats the way it is. You rarely heard LSU fans grumble about it. The problem comes when the SEC office manipulates the schedules and the division titles are determined as a direct result.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:35 am to NYCAuburn
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oh so we can take out florida for LSU but not UGA for Auburn. seems legit
Georgia? They finished behind both Florida and Tennessee. LSU and Arkie both played Tennessee, a tougher opponent than Georgia that year.
Oh, and interesting to see you suddenly claiming that having to play a tough opponent that the other contender doesn't have to play is somehow not legit. Take out Georgia for Alabama last year and give them Mizzou instead, but keep UF and USC on our schedule, then give them UK and UT this year while we get UGa and UF, but that's just fine, right?
Hypocritical idiots.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:36 am to Adam Banks
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Trade schedules LSU and Bama LSU goes 11-1 and Bama goes 10-2.
So it is a guaranteed certainty that the national champions Alabama, would have lost to a very overrated Florida team? Interesting. Alabama would have been at least a 10 point favorite in that game.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:37 am to Monticello
at the end of the day the point is this:
Alabama, Texas A&M and LSU all beat each other.
LSU and A&M played Florida, Alabama played Tennessee and Mizzou.
Guess who went to the SECCG?
Alabama, Texas A&M and LSU all beat each other.
LSU and A&M played Florida, Alabama played Tennessee and Mizzou.
Guess who went to the SECCG?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:38 am to Monticello
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So it is a guaranteed certainty that the national champions Alabama, would have lost to a very overrated Florida team? Interesting. Alabama would have been at least a 10 point favorite in that game.
What from bamas season indicates to you that you would come out with less than 2 losses vs a stretch of UF, USC, TAMU LSU?
Is it the fact that you couldnt get it up at home vs TAMU?
Or maybe it was the SEC CG with UGA, a team USC destroyed, choking?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:38 am to Nuts4LSU
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Florida also beat LSU more convincingly than you did. As in, they actually legitimately beat us, while you needed us to hand you the game on a platter.
Damn. This is sad.
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There is absolutely no basis for claiming Alabama would have had an automatic W playing at Florida last year.
Agreed. But you are saying in your schedule swap analogy that Florida would be an automatic loss for Alabama, which certainly is not true.
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