re: Last time Auburn has been this irrelevant???

Auburn schedule in 2004:

9-4-04 LOUISIANA-MONROE 31-0
9-11-04 at Mississippi State 43-14
9-18-04 LOUISIANA STATE 10-9
9-25-04 THE CITADEL 33-3
10-2-04 at Tennessee 34-10
10-9-04 LOUISIANA TECH 52-7
10-16-04 ARKANSAS 38-20
10-23-04 KENTUCKY 42-10
10-30-04 at Mississippi 35-14
11-13-04 GEORGIA 24-6
11-20-04 at Alabama 21-13
12-4-04 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
vs. Tennessee @Atlanta, GA 38-28
SUGAR BOWL @New Orleans, LA
1-3-05 vs. Virginia Tech 16-13

Average winning score 32 - 11. Pretty good offense and defense, especially in the SEC.

USC 2004 schedule:

Aug. 28, 2004 Virginia Tech 24-13
Sept. 11, 2004 Colorado State 49-0
Sept. 18, 2004 at BYU 42-10
Sept. 25, 2004 at Stanford 31-28
Oct. 9, 2004 California 23-17
Oct. 16, 2004 Arizona State 45-7
Oct. 23, 2004 Washington 38-0
Oct. 30, 2004 at Wash. St. 42-12
Nov. 6, 2004 at Oregon State 28-20
Nov. 13, 2004 Arizona 49-9
Nov. 27, 2004 Notre Dame 41-10
Dec. 4, 2004 at UCLA 29-24
Jan. 4, 2005 Oklahoma 55-19

Average winning score 41 - 12. In the Pac 10 with one less game played. I think Auburn woulda put up a good showing, and possibly could have won. Usc had a couple of close ones also.

Auburn would have beaten them. I've always thought you guys got screwed and all because of preseason rankings. You guys were without a doubt the best team in the country that year.

After being passed up for the big game, its hard to get up for any bowl. (See Utah)

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AU should put the smack down on VT if they wanted respect. Instead they won rather unconvincingly. I think USC would've stomped Auburn.

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Tuberville wasn't one to run up the score. They didn't score until the end of the fourth quarter. Score didn't show the outcome of the game correctly, IMO.

Plus, Virginia Tech's own coach after the game voiced that he thought that we were a better team than USC.

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2) AU was undefeated and the year before there was a split NC between USC and a SEC team. Had AU beatdown VT like USC beatdown OU, they would've had a way better case.

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I don't think that is true. Auburn could have put 100 on VT and you wouldn't have gotten a split NC because the consensus #1 and #2 in both polls played in the BCS title game.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't 2003 the year that OU ended up in the title game even after they lost to K-State in the Big-12 championship? The reason that title was split was because the concensus 1 and 2 teams didn't play each other.

We also beat Miss State and Virginia Tech at the beginning of that year both 40 plus points. That was the year Sylvester got SEC coach of the year
he won some big game including Alabama 2 years i a row. For years before that we have had some tough teams a very goode Arizona State that we
barely won both times. Help me out LSU fans, we don't always have a pansy schedule like Auburn and some of the others that do it year after year.

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Help me out LSU fans, we don't always have a pansy schedule like Auburn and some of the others that do it year after year.

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LSU OOC Schedule in the past 10 seasons

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1999 -- San Jose St., North Texas, Houston
2000 -- Western Carolina, Houston, UAB
2001 -- Tulane, Utah St., Middle Tennessee State
2002 -- Citadel, Miami (OH), UL-Lafayette
2003 -- UL Monroe, Arizona, W. Illinois, La Tech
2004 -- Oregon State, Ark. State, Troy
2005 -- Arizona St., North Texas, App. State
2006 -- UL-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane, Fresno St
2007 -- Va Tech, Mid Tennesse, Tulane, La Tech
2008 -- App State, North Texas, Tulane, Troy

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I wouldn't exactly call that stellar OOC scheduling.

I will go out on a limb and give something else to debate...

That AU team may have been better than any of the recent SEC NC teams. I'll make a case:

1. Only undefeated SEC team. You can say the SEC was down that year and that was the only reason AU beat everyone pretty easily except LSU. But, LSU was very solid in '04 and the defending national champs. UGA was 10-1 when we beat them. You take out UT's 2 losses to us and what other SEC teams beat them? Bama won 10 games the next year. No team in recent memory has gone undefeated and steamrolled the SEC like '04 AU. You have to go back to Spurrier at UF or '92 Bama.

2. When was the last time an SEC team had 4 first roud NFL picks? Did any of the LSU or Gator recent NC teams? 3 first rounders? 2?

3. LSU lost two games in '07. To me, that team is not even in the discussion. AU beat UF's 06 NC team with a team that couldn't compare to our '04 team. Last year, UF lost to Ole Miss at home, but I think would probably match up the best. I do not think '03 LSU scores more than 10 points on our '04 team and AU wins that one.

All this is debatable, but it shows how strong that '04 team was. Personally, I think AU's '04 team beats all 4 recent SEC national champions.

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Auburn has always been the most dangerous when they are "quiet". They've been the biggest busts when they are hyped in the preseason.

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Unfortunately, I agree

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No way an undefeated SEC does not make the NC game again...

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I am glad we could pave the way for other SEC teams