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re: Lane Kiffin; has your opinion of him changed? Let's take a look in the past:
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I said they're a top tier team. If you objectively look at accomplishments though, it's clear Bama is above everyone else. Hell, they have twice as many National Championships as USC, using the preferred choice of selectors as everyone likes to use to argue over. If you are truly being objective about it, you'd have to agree with my statement, that Bama is in a level it's own, above that of So Cal.
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:18 pm to Alahunter
I am being objective. I look at more than NC's. They get the same respect from voters as Bama. When they are winning they shoot up the polls quickly just as Bama does. They get the same hype and they get the pick of the recruits.
Bama gets the slight nod for overall win % (.714 to .702)
Better Bowl winning % (.660) Bama (.592)
More Heisman winners (7) Bama (1)
More All Americans (80) Bama (55)
More Conference titles (38) Bama (27) I will give Bama the nod for being the SEC.
Claimed NC's Bama (15) USC (11)
They are on equal footing when all is said and done. Like I said there are only a few schools when winning get instant love from the voters and shoot up the polls. (Bama, USC, ND, OSU, Mich. There may be 1-2 more). Does Bama get the overall slight advantage? Possibly, but not enough of a separation to stand alone. If you are being objective of course.
Bama gets the slight nod for overall win % (.714 to .702)
Better Bowl winning % (.660) Bama (.592)
More Heisman winners (7) Bama (1)
More All Americans (80) Bama (55)
More Conference titles (38) Bama (27) I will give Bama the nod for being the SEC.
Claimed NC's Bama (15) USC (11)
They are on equal footing when all is said and done. Like I said there are only a few schools when winning get instant love from the voters and shoot up the polls. (Bama, USC, ND, OSU, Mich. There may be 1-2 more). Does Bama get the overall slight advantage? Possibly, but not enough of a separation to stand alone. If you are being objective of course.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:22 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Bama has won 56 more games, in 5 less seasons than USC. Double the NC's. You can attribute Heisman and AA's to early voter bias before 1990. West Coast teams and East Coast teams got all the attention before the proliferation of tv and exposure for southern teams.
The closest to Bama is Notre Dame, with 8 AP poll titles. And using the standards against them, that many like to use against Bama.. winning the bowl the year they won the title.. etc...
5 of their titles, they played in no Bowl game.
2 of the other three, they lost their Bowl game. So of ND's 8 NC's, the only won one Bowl game, the year they played.
That's not to say these teams aren't top tier teams. But realistically, taking away the bias against Bama, and applying the same standards to all teams... Bama is above them.
The closest to Bama is Notre Dame, with 8 AP poll titles. And using the standards against them, that many like to use against Bama.. winning the bowl the year they won the title.. etc...
5 of their titles, they played in no Bowl game.
2 of the other three, they lost their Bowl game. So of ND's 8 NC's, the only won one Bowl game, the year they played.
That's not to say these teams aren't top tier teams. But realistically, taking away the bias against Bama, and applying the same standards to all teams... Bama is above them.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:24 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:28 pm to thatdude1985
quote:You think these opinions changed over 3 yrs?
Hilarious how someone could have a different opinion on someone a few years later huh? IT'S JUST SO CRAZY MAN.
Scruffy can guarantee that they changed the minute Lane was hired. 24 hours before that, Kiffin was as much of a joke to gumps as he is to everyone else.
Scruffy hopes y'all enjoy the Miley Cyrus of coaches.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:29 pm to Alahunter
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Bama is above them.
Objectively speaking no, but I get it is your school bro. Crimson glasses and all that
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:32 pm to Scruffy
quote:This is the truth
Scruffy can guarantee that they changed the minute Lane was hired. 24 hours before that, Kiffin was as much of a joke to gumps as he is to everyone else.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:34 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Hell, there were threads blaming him for having a hand in the OU loss.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:52 pm to Alahunter
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If you objectively look at accomplishments though, it's clear Bama is above everyone else.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:11 am to Scruffy
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Hilarious how someone could have a different opinion on someone a few years later huh? IT'S JUST SO CRAZY MAN.
Yes. Kiffin has done a lot in the past couple of years to win over you I'm sure. What was I thinking, my bad.
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