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re: Kling and Dutton off sinking ship..

Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68814 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:14 pm to
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LSU is up to 9 players on the portal now;

Tennessee had 12 players enter the portal last year and another, Zane Denton, not suit up this year and later enter the portal. What's your point?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22342 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:15 pm to
Post says Kling "hasn't panned out yet". He is transferring because he wants to start somewhere.

Couldnt' start at LSU and headed out to school where there is less competition.. Probably a good decisiion. Not sure what JJ could have done to keep him other than give him an undeserved starting position.

JJ might not give 2 fricks about leaving TBH.

Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:19 pm to
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He was also passed by true freshmen which kind of defeats your whole talking point.


And that’s because Little JJ couldn’t develop him. Let’s see how he does when he goes to another school. If he improves drastically, then you have your answer on the development part. But if not, and he still stays the same, then it’s obvious it was JJ.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61336 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:21 pm to
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He was throwing 98-100 mph before he even got to LSU.


Doesn't seem to be true.

quote:

Soon Skenes not only had developed a better slider, but he had added considerable speed to his fastball. Suddenly a fastball that had usually topped out around 95 mph at Air Force was zinging across the plate at 100 mph or more.


LINK
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11561 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by gttiger09
Member since Aug 2021
27 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:22 pm to
Cam Johnson is a freshman, technically 3 years left.

Chase Burns was a major recruit that developed from a starter to a midweek guy, heck of a job by TV…….
Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Tennessee had 12 players enter the portal last year and another, Zane Denton, not suit up this year and later enter the portal. What's your point?


The only one that entered the portal that was an impact player was Burns. Everyone else didn’t see the field or was hurt. Top prospects don’t normally transfer after a year. Burns and Vitello butted heads and Burns left because he didn’t get what he wanted. And it’s obvious, Burns followed the wrong advice.

Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Couldnt' start at LSU


He started the season off as the starter and lead off hitter. And as the season progressed he was used as a defensive replacement late in games.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
3497 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Dutton was a freshman when JJ accepted the job. I get that PM recruited him, but he’s spent the last 3 years with JJ!


No, you didn’t. You just throw a bunch of shite against the wall and get bodied in every one of these troll threads you start. I realize y’all have only been following college baseball for a few years but you’re out of your depth trying to debate with LSU fans.
Posted by gttiger09
Member since Aug 2021
27 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:27 pm to
So guys transfer from LSU and it’s because the coach sucks, transfer from Tennesse and it’s because they suck. Makes sense…….
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68814 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:27 pm to
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The only one that entered the portal that was an impact player was Burns.

well none of the players who have entered the portal from LSU are impact players. So, again, what's your point?
Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Chase Burns was a major recruit that developed from a starter to a midweek guy, heck of a job by TV


Burns was never a mid week guy dumbass. Burns would have been a 1st round pick his freshman and sophomore year at Tennessee if eligible. Burns pitched on the weekends and was out in a role that he best excelled at. He was a selfish player and didn’t like the role Vitello had for him, which was same role that Causey was in and finished 13-3 this year.

Burn’s leaving actually helped Tennessee more than it helped Burns. After Vitello moved Burns to the bullpen and bring him on as a long reliever for 5-7 innings, it turned the season around. Vitello even admitted that he knew Burns was leaving before the season was even over with.

Burns leaves and he kisses Omaha. Tennessee is in Omaha without Burns and having a better season. Burns needed UT and Vitello more than UT needed him. If you look at Burns games over the last 3 years you will notice after he gets to 65-75 pitches he falls off big. So Vitello moves him to the pen and brings him in the game in 3rd or 4th inning and he finishes the game. Where as before, he was coming out of the game between the 5th-7th inning. Vitello using him like this used less pitching and sat him up for success. His ERA as a starter last year was north of 5.00. When he went to the bullpen and still pitched as many innings, it was 1.2.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24535 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:33 pm to
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sinking ship


You people are hilarious
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24583 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:33 pm to
Skenes got better by coming to LSU. He says he did, the stats say he did, and you're the only dumbass that thinks he didn't.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
9001 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:34 pm to
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He gone!!

Another Little JJ Recruit not working out. 2 high rated guys out of high school and both go to BR and don’t get developed both hit the portal last two days. Doesn’t matter how talented you are out of high school if JJ can’t develop the talent.
you are one pathetic little Troll
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11055 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:34 pm to
People keep spinnign the transfers as a negative but I see it as JJ learning from mistakes. He put a lot of faith in guys like Kling developing into good players. This year it seems like he's not putting all his eggs in returning guys stepping up basket. Hes gonna bring in HS, JUCO, and transfers with no promises to returning guys. May the best man win the job. Last year he slotted Kling and a few other sin as every day starters and it bit him in the butt. He's not gonna do that again.
Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:44 pm to
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heck of a job by TV……


I know, he sends players to the pros as much as anyone. From 2019-2022, the Vols' 26 selections rank third amongst SEC teams in that span.

1st round picks under Vitello:
Doolander Top 10
Drew Gilbert
Jordan Beck
Garrett Crochet

Future 1st rounders:
Billy Amick
Christian Moore
Drew Beam

Vitello 1st year at HC was 2018. From 2017- 2018 the Vols had 7 picks total. Then 2019-2020 season Vols have 12 drafted. And jsut the last 2 season the Vols have had 18 drafted for 2022 and 2023 seasons. Vitello doesn’t have an issue sending players to the MLB!
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22342 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:47 pm to
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He started the season off as the starter and lead off hitter. And as the season progressed he was used as a defensive replacement late in games.


Like I said. Couldn’t start.
Posted by Perrenial Powerhouse
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2006
3686 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:47 pm to
Bro, you’re a fricking joke
Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2522 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 3:48 pm to
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well none of the players who have entered the portal from LSU are impact players. So, again, what's your point?


Throwing 98-100mph is an impact player. You don’t see kids transfer from big time schools that have an elite arm unless your at a services academy and you don’t want to be locked into services after your 3rd year instead of playing pro ball.

Kling was highest rated recruit in LSU history to sign when signed. He was expected to have a big impact this year for LSU and for some reason it didn’t work out. There are 4 guys there was projected to be impact players and for whatever reason it did t work out. We will take Aiden Moffett and let Anderson fix him.
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