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Kirby Smart vs Nick Saban

Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:36 pm
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:36 pm
Compare and predict the future success of Alabama and Georgia under their current head coaches leadership: Justify your answer with precise skills and advantages Kirby Smart has over Nick Saban or vice-versa?


IMO - Kirby has no advantages over Nick Saban and Alabama will continue to dominate the SEC and Georgia. I don't think Kirby has 15% of Sabans coaching skills and as a result will achieve 15% of Sabans success. Interpret it this way: If Saban coached Alabama against Kirby & Georgia 100 times I think Saban would win 85 times.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 12:26 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:41 pm to
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15% of Sabans success.


So 1 national title and 1-2 SEC Titles?

Already halfway to #2. Impressive.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:43 pm to
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I don't think Kirby has 15% of Sabans coaching skills


That's just silly.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:43 pm to
Kirby has Georgia...... a Legit coach that can lock down Georgia is a danger. Bama can’t win shite with just Alabama kids. That’s just the facts. Y’all have been blessed with Saban and national recruiting, but Urban, Herman, Fisher, and even O have hassled Saban out of Texas, y’all get 1or 2 from LA, but Georgia/Atlanta was your area. Ole Kirby knows this and has started to change that culture
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:46 pm to
In Kirby’s defense....he was kicking Bama’s arse late in the second half of the National Championship when Saban abandoned his starting QB, to save fate, and threw in a freshman and won in overtime against a second year head coach. Kirby’s out recruiting Saban...but Kirby is only 15%.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:47 pm to
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he was kicking Bama’s arse late in the second half of the National Championship


Erroneous
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:49 pm to
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In Kirby’s defense....he was kicking Bama’s arse late in the second half of the National Championship when Saban abandoned his starting QB, to save fate, and threw in a freshman and won in overtime against a second year head coach. Kirby’s out recruiting Saban...but Kirby is only 15%.


Did...did you not watch the game? The freshman came out at the start of the 2nd half You hurt your argument when you say stuff like this.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:52 pm to
Was UGA still not in the lead late in the 2nd half?
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
Member since Jul 2017
619 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:54 pm to
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That's just silly.

In a direct comparison of career achievements I don't believe Kirby will be in any way comparable to Nick Saban.
Kirby isn't a genius. Nick Saban is a football genius and among the one, two, or three greatest College Football coaches of all time. Kirby will never rank much higher than a slightly above average coach. Kirby may win a NC and he may win a few SEC Championships. He will not go on to win multiple NCs or be considered a "Great" coach. Kirby was in the right place at the right time. Kirby isn't the critical thinker Nick Saban is and I would defer to Sabans decisions 100% of the time.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 11:57 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 11:55 pm to
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Was UGA still not in the lead late in the 2nd half?


Did you not get a Georgia education? I pointed out your mistake in very plain terms. It wasn't a complicated post. And Bama outscored UGA in the second half by as many points as UGA outscored Bama in the first. And outscored UGA over the course of the entire game.

Oh, and upvoting yourself is pathetic
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:03 am to
It was 20-10 going into the 4th quarter and I haven’t upvoted nor down voted anyone jackass. Sorry for ruining your night with facts.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:06 am to
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IMO - Kirby has no advantages over Nick Saban and Alabama will continue to dominate the SEC and Georgia. I don't think Kirby has 15% of Sabans coaching skills and as a result will achieve 15% of Sabans success.


This is just idiotic.Bama had a big talent advantage on
both LOS's,WR and DB and needed an OT bomb to win the game. You had 12 guys drafted vs our 6 and the gap will be wider next year.

Nick wins because he signs the best talent every year and does a pretty good job developing them.Its pretty
simple.
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
Member since Jul 2017
619 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:10 am to
What makes a great coach is his gray matter. Brains are the tools of Champions and Alabama has had more football Head Coach geniuses than any other College football team. Alabama's current coach is an unqualified genius - maybe the GOAT. Kirby walked into a good program well stocked with athletes in a weak SEC Eastern Conference and got lucky in the SEC Championship and Playoff games. Georgia played well until faced with the Nick Saban's genius. Kirby wilted major league under Saban's mammoth brainpower.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 12:19 am
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:18 am to
So a year 2 coach in a sub par division manages to get lucky in the SECCG, against a team that beat you, but wins by 20, Then goes across the country and wins a rose bowl against the highest scoring offense in the land, then leads the undeserving Dawgs to a late lead into the 4th quarter before the GOAT ties to go to OT and win....and wilted? frick you and the horse you rode in on. Saban knows he got lucky on a busted play in OT. If BAMA was so good, shouldn’t he Natty have played out a little different....like Bama leading most of the game?
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
Member since Jul 2017
619 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:21 am to
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So a year 2 coach in a sub par division manages to get lucky in the SECCG, against a team that beat you, but wins by 20, Then goes across the country and wins a rose bowl against the highest scoring offense in the land, then leads the undeserving Dawgs to a late lead into the 4th quarter before the GOAT ties to go to OT and win....and wilted? frick you and the horse you rode in on. Saban knows he got lucky on a busted play in OT. If BAMA was so good, shouldn’t he Natty have played out a little different....like Bama leading most of the game?
If that Fairy Tale helps you sleep at night - go ahead and believe it.

Truth is Georgia got outcoached and physically beaten when the chips were down and a NC was on the line. That's all there is to say.

PS: And Alabama should have won it in regulation - the game should never have gone to OT and you know it.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 12:24 am
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:29 am to
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Alabama will continue to dominate the SEC


Didn’t even win the West last year. frick off dipshit
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
Member since Jul 2017
619 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:34 am to
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Didn’t even win the West last year. frick off dipshit
What would you give to have Alabama's sh*tty team last year?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:36 am to
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Brains are the tools of Champions


Clearly not one of your tools.

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walked into a good program well stocked with athletes


Our talent level wasn't near Bama last season and wasn't close in '16 (not one Sr drafted and a Jr was the only player drafted in the 4th rd)


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and got lucky in the SEC Championship


What?We out gained AU 421 to 259 and were knocking on the door to score another TD and outscored them 28-7.We also outgained OU and held their offense to 7pts in 2nd half while they also got a scoop and score on defense...nothing "lucky" about either outcome.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 12:38 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:01 am to
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Truth is Georgia got outcoached and physically beaten when the chips were down and a NC was on the line. That's all there is to say.


Georgia lost for two reasons:

1. Kirby/Chaney forgot Sony Michel existed.

2. Da'Ron Payne and Dashawn Hand absolutely mutilated the inside of our OL and stuffed every Nick Chubb run up the middle.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:02 am to
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I don't think




Should have ended your typing here.
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