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re: Kirby Smart nearing retirement from this statement
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:13 pm to Opry
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:13 pm to Opry
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Saban won in his era, with great recruiting and organization but he was never a phenom field coach. Once he couldn't horde NFL talent 3 deep, his days were numbered. He also had a very difficult time hiring OCs because he didn't understand offense.
Saban doesn’t understand offense, but you do enough to judge that he doesn’t? You seem very dumb. Are you a CFB Hall of Famer? Because Kirby and Saban will be.
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:20 pm to Dawgfanman
Yes, Saban hired more duds at OC than good ones and thats a fact. Overall Bama greatly under achieved. Without NFL talent it would have been bad.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:25 pm to Opry
I remember Bama complaining about Nussmeier or whoever. That offense averaged like 34 ppg.
The horror.
The horror.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:28 pm to jangalang
Its not the points, its what you do with what you have. Nuss was a disaster. I never heard about him again
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:29 pm to nicholastiger
He’s the greatest coach in UGA history. One of the greatest coaches in SEC history. Not much more for him to prove. Maybe he’ll win a 3rd title and hang it up?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:30 pm to DawginSC
I can imagine a lot of coach are going to get worn out dealing with the NIL shite.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:31 pm to nicholastiger
Kirby tells folks in private that he is going to coach at UGA until he is 60-62 years of age.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:32 pm to DeafJam73
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He’s the greatest coach in UGA history. One of the greatest coaches in SEC history. Not much more for him to prove. Maybe he’ll win a 3rd title and hang it up?
I think he might be thinking 4.
There's only 6 guys with 4 or more national titles. I can see a coach wanting to get into that rarified air before hanging it up.
Hell, he might shoot for 5. That would put him in a tie for third all-time.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:33 pm to MightyYat
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I can imagine a lot of coach are going to get worn out dealing with the NIL shite.
Kirby really hasn't been bothered by it so far though.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:40 pm to DawginSC
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UGA's offense was ranked 5th in 2022 and 5th in 2023.
So they've stagnated, got it.
Just kidding, man.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:41 pm to Opry
The thought that either Kirby or Saban were "defense focused, ball control offenses" anymore is simply blind or stupid.
Saban switched away from that in 2018 (or you could argue, midway through the national title game for the 2017 season).
He saw that Kirby was using the same approach and was doing it better (in large part due to having Chubb and Michel at RB), so he switched to Tua and a pass first approach mid game and won the title.
To be perfectly honest, the ability to change his philosophy mid game like that is one of the greatest coaching moments ever. It's why he's the GOAT. That wasn't a coaching adjustment like many coaches do at halftime, it was a complete overhaul in philosophy.
Kirby took another couple of years but made the same move. He tried to do it when Jim Chaney went to Tennessee in 2019, but made a bad hire. He was trying to go pass first but Coley just wasn't a good OC. He fired Coley after one year and went with Todd Monken and UGA's offenses have been prolific ever since.
Saban switched away from that in 2018 (or you could argue, midway through the national title game for the 2017 season).
He saw that Kirby was using the same approach and was doing it better (in large part due to having Chubb and Michel at RB), so he switched to Tua and a pass first approach mid game and won the title.
To be perfectly honest, the ability to change his philosophy mid game like that is one of the greatest coaching moments ever. It's why he's the GOAT. That wasn't a coaching adjustment like many coaches do at halftime, it was a complete overhaul in philosophy.
Kirby took another couple of years but made the same move. He tried to do it when Jim Chaney went to Tennessee in 2019, but made a bad hire. He was trying to go pass first but Coley just wasn't a good OC. He fired Coley after one year and went with Todd Monken and UGA's offenses have been prolific ever since.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:43 pm to Opry
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Without NFL talent it would have been bad.
Look at this guy thinking he is so smart
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:45 pm to Lucado
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A lawyer friend of mine retired several years ago. He had made his money and thought he was ready to slow down. After less than two years he reopened his firm. In his words, "there's only so many rounds of golf you can play before you get bored." I don't know when Kirby will leave UGA, but he's too young to permanently retire.
Your friend sounds very boring. There are so many amazing things to get involved with, new hobbies/sports to learn, vacations to take in this world. And then there's family. If golf is all he could come up with, I pity this person and the life he is living, regardless of how many 0's he has in his net worth.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:50 pm to Lucado
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A lawyer friend of mine retired several years ago. He had made his money and thought he was ready to slow down. After less than two years he reopened his firm. In his words, "there's only so many rounds of golf you can play before you get bored." I don't know when Kirby will leave UGA, but he's too young to permanently retire.
I sold my business in 2007 for enough money to retire at 42, with my wife still working, without taking a lifestyle hit. We moved to Europe. I lasted almost a year. Likened to have drove me insane. Only so much traveling and sitting in coffee shops and beer gardens one can do without it losing its charm. I finished a novel (never tried to publish, its CRAP LOL). Spent week after week site seeing and taking friends and family site seeing. Seems like a fantastic way to live. It was beyond boring LOL. I took a consulting gig with a German company that paid for me to travel on their dime and have worked since and will continue to do so. Retirement is OK of you are one of 2 things....lazy as hell or creative as hell. I am neither. CFB coaches make enough at Smarts level to retire comfortably....they are driven by other things.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:51 pm to Opry
Jesus. You undermining Smart and Saban. I'd really like to know who you think is a great coach.
Hate the teams all you want. But everything you've said in this thread is completely asinine.
Hate the teams all you want. But everything you've said in this thread is completely asinine.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:54 pm to Opry
quote:Six national championships in seventeen years = "underachieving"
Overall Bama greatly under achieved.
quote:So you're saying that without good players, the program wouldn't have been as successful? Wow, that's deep.
Without NFL talent it would have been bad.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:54 pm to South Georgia Dawg
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Kirby tells folks in private that he is going to coach at UGA until he is 60-62 years of age.
I have heard that he says it at TD Club meetings also. Of course that could all be saying what they want to hear but I have heard it from multiple people.
It'd be a fool who did not notice the grind. It may just be him venting about it. I certainly hope so!
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:56 pm to nicholastiger
What if Saban, Stoops, Smart, Carroll and a few others created a college. Then got big sponsors to buy players. And collectively coached them. J/K, but there are a lot of great ex coaches nowadays
Honestly. a group of these highly known retired coaches could likely start a player consulting agency and most of the good players would run through them.
Honestly. a group of these highly known retired coaches could likely start a player consulting agency and most of the good players would run through them.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:56 pm to Opry
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..But yes, I stand by the fact Smart is a wuss and some of his hardest competition is ahead of him. Smart isn't really a great coach..
OK, I had to stop reading here and realize you aren’t very smart at the Footballs.
Cmon dude. You honestly think Kirby is not a great coach? Just quit.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:58 pm to Chuck Barris
Yep, without NFL talent Saban wouldn't have outcoached anyone.
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