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re: Kirby Smart is officially a 1/3 of the way through Richt's tenor. When is a NC required?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:48 am to atlanta917
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:48 am to atlanta917
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Hell, even include that year and Smart still has a substantially better record.
Kirby @ Georgia: 44-12
Orgeron @ LSU 40-9
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:51 am to SidewalkTiger
Kirby 44-12
Orgeron 56-36
Orgeron 56-36
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:53 am to atlanta917
Ah I see, have to throw the Ole Miss numbers in to make you feel better about Kirby.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:56 am to SidewalkTiger
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Ah I see, have to throw the Ole Miss numbers in to make you feel better about Kirby.
Or maybe you’re just cherry-picking data. You put Orgeron’s best years against Kirby’s total career. I put Kirby’s career record next to Orgeron’s. If I did the same and took off Smart’s first year, things would look different.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:59 am to SidewalkTiger
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This is an impressive melt.
LMAO! And not close to the multiple melts directed at me about my post comparing Kirby's
first four years to O and Saban.
We all knew the LSU fans weren't very bright and the responses I received just proved my point.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:01 am to atlanta917
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Or maybe you’re just cherry-picking data. You put Orgeron’s best years against Kirby’s total career. I put Kirby’s career record next to Orgeron’s. If I did the same and took off Smart’s first year, things would look different.
Actually I just used the numbers from each coach at his current job which is the only thing relevant to the present day.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:02 am to RD Dawg
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And not close to the multiple melts directed at me about my post comparing Kirby's
first four years to O and Saban.
It looked to me like they were just telling you that it was a dumb comparison.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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Ah I see, pretend he never coached at Ole Miss to make LSU fans feel better about O.
FIFY
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:03 am to SidewalkTiger
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Actually I just used the numbers from each coach at his current job which is the only thing relevant to the present day.
When comparing careers, all the numbers are relevant. When comparing best years, only best years are relevant. By ignoring Orgeron’s previous jobs you’re implying that both O and Smart were first time coaches when arriving at their respective schools, which isn’t the case.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:05 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:03 am to atlanta917
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When comparing best years, only best years are relevant.
Who was comparing best years?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:05 am to SidewalkTiger
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Who was comparing best years?
You are. You’re acting like both were taking their first job when arriving at their schools, but that’s only true for one.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:08 am to atlanta917
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You are. You’re acting like both were taking their first job when arriving at their schools, but that’s only true for one.
Actually I'm not.
Again, I used both coaches' records from their current jobs.
The numbers say that O is currently a better coach than Smart.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:16 am to SidewalkTiger
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Actually I'm not.
How so? Certainly seems like you’re ignoring a lot of orgerons past.
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Again, I used both coaches' records from their current jobs.
So cherry picking? One is coaching for the first time. The other isn’t.
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The numbers say
That smart has been more consistent than Orgeron. That’s why his winning percentage is better.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:19 am to atlanta917
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How so? Certainly seems like you’re ignoring a lot of orgerons past.
Just the part that isn't at his current job. You sound like Aggie hyping Jimbo because of what he did at Florida State except in reverse.
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That smart has been more consistent than Orgeron. That’s why his winning percentage is better.
Well one is coaching at Georgia and one coached at Ole Miss.
Once Orgeron got to a school on Georgia's level, he performed better.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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Just the part that isn't at his current job.
So you are cherry-picking. When comparing careers you look at everything, not just the best years. It would be like me saying Fromm is better than Burrow because he had a few games with better stats.
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Once Orgeron got to a school on Georgia's level, he performed better.
Or maybe Orgeron got better with experience? Almost like he learned from mistakes and got better.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:28 am to atlanta917
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So you are cherry-picking. When comparing careers you look at everything, not just the best years. It would be like me saying Fromm is better than Burrow because he had a few games with better stats.
Except I wasn't comparing a few games, I was comparing both at their current jobs. You dont seem to know what cherry picking means.
I also wasn't necessarily comparing careers, I was looking at who's the best coach right now.
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Or maybe Orgeron got better with experience? Almost like he learned from mistakes and got better.
Possibly although he only has two more years of head coaching experience than Kirby so it isnt like he has a ton more to learn from.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:32 am to RD Dawg
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Ah I see, pretend he never coached at Ole Miss to make LSU fans feel better about O.
Just won a Natty, don't need anything to make us feel better about him.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:33 am to SidewalkTiger
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Except I wasn't comparing a few games, I was comparing both at their current jobs. You dont seem to know what cherry picking means.
You were putting up less than half of Orgeron’s career numbers to kirby’s career. It seems you don’t know what cherry-picking means.
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I also wasn't necessarily comparing careers, I was looking at who's the best coach right now.
Why would you not? Orgeron had a better year last year than Saban. Are you saying that makes him a better coach?
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Possibly although he only has two more years of head coaching experience than Kirby so it isnt like he has a ton more to learn from.
Orgeron has 8 years of Head coaching experience, which doubles that of Smart.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:42 am to atlanta917
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You were putting up less than half of Orgeron’s career numbers to kirby’s career. It seems you don’t know what cherry-picking means.
Again, I was comparing each at their current job.
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Why would you not? Orgeron had a better year last year than Saban. Are you saying that makes him a better coach?
No because Saban has been better at his current job than Orgeron. This isn't that hard to understand.
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Orgeron has 8 years of Head coaching experience, which doubles that of Smart.
False. Three years at Ole Miss and three years at LSU.
Comparing head to head at current job would theoretically be more beneficial to Kirby since he's had a year longer to get his guys in and build his program and he also doesn't have another dominant program currently in his division.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:52 am to SidewalkTiger
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False. Three years at Ole Miss and three years at LSU.
No. He’s coached 8 years. You’re ignoring an extra year at LSU and 1 at USC. He coached more than half the games in both of the years you’re acting like never happened.
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he also doesn't have another dominant program currently in his division
Kirby has played more ranked teams and top 10 teams at UGA than O has at LSU. Smart is also one of two SEC coaches with a winning record against top 10 opponents.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:55 am
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