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re: "Kiffin will leave when Nick Saban says he can leave."

Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:31 pm to
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The writer is simply trying to convince himself that losing one of the nation's best offensive coordinators isn't too big of a deal. Since when has Saban been dubbed as some sort of offensive genius?


I think this is a very accurate statement(yours not the writer's). I think he goes to Oregon, but no way he goes to LSU.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10279 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:07 pm to
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I don't know, I'll ask one for you. Here is what everybody but LSU fans know. An oc job at Bama > than an oc job at LSU. And it isn't even close.


Any job on Bama's staff is better. LSU isn't exactly pumping out head coaching prospects.
Hell, they have a head coach we wouldn't even interview as a position coach. Why? because nobody wanted the job. They couldn't even lure Houston's...HOUSTON'S coach. Yes, the Houston friggin Cougars of the AAC.

Lane goes to LSU it's just to be able to do whatever he wants. I'm REAL SURE Orgeron wouldn't hesitate to put him in his place. He'll be lucky if Lane makes it to team meetings.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:20 pm to
Why do you hate LSU so much?
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Why do you hate LSU so much?


I do not. I hate their ad and the decisions he has made and I blame him mostly for LSU's train wreck of a season. The SEC needs a stronger LSU. A lot of LSU fans create conspiracies and do all kinds of silly things that demand to be made fun of.
Posted by silverthorn
Fort Collins, CO
Member since Nov 2011
753 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

This is an epic train wreck waiting to happen. LSU has showed everyone how you totally screw up a coaching staff.


Drama queen
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107226 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:33 pm to
Saban needed Lane as much as Lane needed another chance. Saban didn't look to hire Kiffin so they could be buddies. He wanted Kiffins abilities to give his team the best chance to win championships.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:59 am to
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What? I agree that Saban gave him a great opportunity to gain a lot of the respect he had lost but he would have definitely got another shot. He is fairly young.


I do wonder where Kiffin would be now if Saban hadn't given him that shot, though. Does anyone think he'd have proven his mettle and be in the conversation for major HC jobs if he'd been hired by, say, Vanderbilt? He's certainly benefited from both the high profile and the talent offered by Bama. Which means it's entirely possible he'll crash and burn again at his next HC stop. But analyzing him requires more football savvy than most people on this board can muster. I'd like to see a real football guru break down Lane's coaching choices and player development.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:40 am to
Kirby Smart
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104333 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Any job on Bama's staff is better. LSU isn't exactly pumping out head coaching prospects
Bo Pelini, Frank wilson

Seems just as many as bama is pumping out
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:11 am to
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I think a Saban Kiffin mix is the perfect storm
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:14 am to
Wouldn't Lane be next in line when God retires from coaching?
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:07 am to
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Saban needed Lane as much as Lane needed another chance. Saban didn't look to hire Kiffin so they could be buddies. He wanted Kiffins abilities to give his team the best chance to win championships


And at the time, you guys loved it, declaring that Kiffin was going to be a huge failure and the team would implode.

There is a moral to this story, but I'll let you figure it out.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30818 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:12 am to
A very astute post. Saban, like Bryant, can be flexible and adjust his football ideology with the times. This is why both are/were so successful. Saban certainly is able to identify talent on the playing AND coaching level, while Kiffin realizes that he needs to gain maturity and discipline from someone like Saban.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30818 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:22 am to
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I do wonder where Kiffin would be now if Saban hadn't given him that shot, though. Does anyone think he'd have proven his mettle and be in the conversation for major HC jobs if he'd been hired by, say, Vanderbilt? He's certainly benefited from both the high profile and the talent offered by Bama. Which means it's entirely possible he'll crash and burn again at his next HC stop. But analyzing him requires more football savvy than most people on this board can muster. I'd like to see a real football guru break down Lane's coaching choices and player development.


I'm thinking that Lane knows his shortcomings, (immaturity, attention to discipline and detail, etc.), and realizes that he is learning from the best in the business in those areas. As another poster stated, it has been an excellent marriage with BOTH gaining from the experience.
Posted by JimmyHDeridderhigh
Boosies free... Now what?
Member since Jul 2013
1171 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:39 am to
Why do y'all care so much if he does go to LSU?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
62860 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:45 am to
who is kevin brooks?

























nevermind don't really care
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20581 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:25 am to
But Finebaum says he's going & he HAS been given a tour of Nicky's house by Ms.Terry.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27845 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:40 am to
quote:

The writer is simply trying to convince himself that losing one of the nation's best offensive coordinators isn't too big of a deal.


We won a national championship with Doug Nussmeier at OC. Let that sink in for a moment.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107226 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:54 pm to
You paint with a large brush. I honestly don't remember my reaction to kiffin coming to Bama initially.

But you forgot to add the many Bama fans who were against it, and not happy.

And if you are looking for stories full of morals you may be too delicate to be on this message board.

People talk shite no matter if it's a good hire or not.
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