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re: Kelly should win national coach of the year

Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Winning the east is impressive?


Best team in west is, at best, 3rd in the East…
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:56 pm to
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That's a lie our quarterback transfer to a&m and he was most of the production




It’s a weighted average based on how much returning production at a position affects team success

Here is the formula: LINK

Also, let’s not act like losing Max Johnson mattere
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Nearly every good player they had last year came back


Which was like 3 guys.

A lot of that returning production lost their jobs to transfers and freshmen.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:06 pm to
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He lost to Texas5&7


And still won SECW
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Nearly every good player they had last year came back.


Well that's not true, at all. LSU lost 10 players to the draft and had several other potential starters or contributors (McGlothern/Ricks/Johnson/Palmer) leave in the portal.

That being said, the OP is dumb. Dykes is the clear Coach of the Year.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
26829 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Winning the east is impressive?


I mean, teams from the East have already beaten the PAC-12 champion and the ACC champion and will likely beat the Big 10 champion as well.

This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
26829 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:12 pm to
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coming off back-to-back 6-6 seasons


So going from 6 regular season wins to 9 regular season wins is COTY worthy to you?
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
10678 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:12 pm to
Best 4 loss team in the country
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:19 pm to
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It’s a weighted average based on how much returning production at a position affects team success


Looking at the link, the formula doesn't make much sense.

LSU had 3,308 passing yards last year and lost Max Johnson who had 2,815 of those yards.

LSU had 1,482 rushing yards. Lost Tyron Davis-Price (1,003 yards) and Corey Kiner (324 yards).

Receivers almost all returned (except for 324-yard Trey Palmer).

On defense:

The linebacker who lead the team, by far, in tackles was in the draft. The best defensive tackle went pro. All the cornerbacks were gone.

On special teams, the All-American kicker gone to the draft.

So how do you lose almost the entirety of your passing and running production, a large chunk of the defensive production, and all of the kicker scoring and get to 63%?
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:22 pm to
Read it again, melty.

Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:26 pm to
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Read it again, melty.


I read it, the writer’s methodology is flawed.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:27 pm to
Why is it flawed, Metry?
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
29552 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:28 pm to
Every advanced stat formula is flawed though. There’s no perfect formula but they try to make it as accurate as possible. This one does a good job.

Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9602 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Kelly should win national coach of the year


Have to finish without dropping a game to a shite team.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2953 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:50 pm to
9-4 ain’t winning COY
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Every advanced stat formula is flawed though. There’s no perfect formula but they try to make it as accurate as possible. This one does a good job.


Opinions can differ, I get that.

But just do a side-by-side of the returning contributors by LSU and Georgia. It is ludicrous to suggest LSU had more returning:

QB: LSU had 300 passing yards from a backup returning. Georgia had all of Stetson's production returning.

RB: Georgia had about 700 yds rushing back, LSU about 150.

Receiving: Both had most returning.

O-line: Not sure about Georgia, but LSU had 4 new starters.

D-line: LSU returned more, I would guess, but Georgia did return at least Walker.

LB: Georgia with Smith, LSU lost top tackler.

DB: Georgia returned more.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29552 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:04 pm to
You still haven’t read the article


quote:

LB: Georgia with Smith, LSU lost top tackler.

What lol? We started 2 ILBS with no experience this year.

We lost our top 4 tacklers homie. And 7 of our top 8.

quote:

DB: Georgia returned more.


Did we? We lost our #1 safety, #1 CB, #3 CB, and #3 Safety
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44857 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Oh please give me a goddamm break. So many other coaches more deserving. Get off this mans nuts


Oh the horror of back to back 6 win seasons. This is why tRant can't seem to get a handle on Tennessee fans right now. Your perspectives (not you personally) are so skewed about what true football hell is that you think back to back bowl eligibility is rock bottom.
Posted by BradJ88
The Dirty Southside
Member since Nov 2022
341 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:30 pm to
Kelly's a good hire and he'll probably win a COTY one day but I'm not sure you should be winning anything when you only got as far as 4 losses.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:41 pm to
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Did we? We lost our #1 safety, #1 CB, #3 CB, and #3 Safety


LSU lost #1 CB, #2 CB, #3 CB, #4 CB, so every corner who played this season was new. Starting free safety made 16 tackles last year.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 2:44 pm
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