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Kalen DeBoer/Les Miles comparison the first two years following Saban
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:36 pm
Saban (LSU)
2003: 13-1
2004: 9-3
Les Miles (LSU)
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
Saban (Bama)
2022: 11-2
2023: 12-2
Kalen DeBoer (Bama)
2024: 9-4
2025: 11-4
What grade would you give DeBoer following the GOAT?
I would give him a C.
Bama fans seem to be giving him some slack, so I'm curious to know what grade they would give him.
2003: 13-1
2004: 9-3
Les Miles (LSU)
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
Saban (Bama)
2022: 11-2
2023: 12-2
Kalen DeBoer (Bama)
2024: 9-4
2025: 11-4
What grade would you give DeBoer following the GOAT?
I would give him a C.
Bama fans seem to be giving him some slack, so I'm curious to know what grade they would give him.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 4:29 pm
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:15 pm to BlackCloud
B+ seems fair. Dealt with a transfer portal that was the Wild West after Saban’s retirement - completely different than what was in place this year.
Brutal schedule this year, but improved the record, finished 7-1 in the SEC against that brutal schedule, and continued to recruit at an elite level.
Brutal schedule this year, but improved the record, finished 7-1 in the SEC against that brutal schedule, and continued to recruit at an elite level.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
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B+ seems fair.
I gave him a C mainly because he has lost a few games each year where Bama was heavily favored and seemed unmotivated and not focused.
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Dealt with a transfer portal that was the Wild West after Saban’s retirement - completely different than what was in place this year.
Fair point.
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Brutal schedule this year, but improved the record, finished 7-1 in the SEC against that brutal schedule
The FSU loss to start the year was another loss where Bama was heavily favored and the team didn't look motivated or focused.
The losses to UGA and Indiana were just ugly and not competitive.
Thanks for the honest response!
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:58 pm to BlackCloud
Alabama - 62
LSU - 22
under Deboer
I imagine LSU would trade.
LSU - 22
under Deboer
I imagine LSU would trade.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:01 pm to Tuscaloosa
I guess Bama's standards are changing... pretty drastically
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:01 pm to BlackCloud
I’ll be honest Saban left him a wreck with Milroe. It was a losing situation having to play him. However this last year I would’ve expected Debeor to do more. So B- it is
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:03 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Alabama - 62
LSU - 22
under Deboer
I imagine LSU would trade.
Brian Kelly was 4-0 against Arky
I imagine Arky would trade
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to BlackCloud
Did Arkansas even find a coach yet
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to Tuscaloosa
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B+ seems fair. Dealt with a transfer portal that was the Wild West after Saban’s retirement - completely different than what was in place this year. Brutal schedule this year, but improved the record, finished 7-1 in the SEC against that brutal schedule, and continued to recruit at an elite level.
Lost by 56 combined points to UGA and Indiana.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to Sun God
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Did Arkansas even find a coach yet
I don't want to derail my own thread but I think they hired another G5 Chad Morris type.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:13 pm to BlackCloud
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Bama fans seem to be giving him some slack, so I'm curious to know what grade they would give him.
Our problems started under Saban, not DeBoer. Regardless of what fans want to believe, Saban wasn't getting the best assistants towards the end, and he himself had lost a lot of the intensity and discipline he had the previous decade. He had gotten soft, former players talk about it and he even has admitted it.
Not to mention the completely different environment. No transfers for Les, no big change in systems, etc.
Not really a valid comparison.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to Stidham8
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Lost by 56 combined points to UGA and Indiana.
6 in a row is why you are nut swinging Georgia.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to BlackCloud
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I don't want to derail my own thread but I think they hired another G5 Chad Morris type.
We at least hired one with a winning record this time.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to BlackCloud
I'm legit asking and not trying to be snarky.
Did Saban leave behind equal products at LSU and Bama? He left LSU one year removed from a championship. He left Bama three years removed from a championship that many on this board claim deserves an *.
He left behind Milroe at Bama.
Did Saban leave behind equal products at LSU and Bama? He left LSU one year removed from a championship. He left Bama three years removed from a championship that many on this board claim deserves an *.
He left behind Milroe at Bama.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:20 pm to New Money
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He left behind Milroe at Bama.
In 2023 milroe won the sec
Under deboer milroe lost 4 games
There's no way to give Deboer anything above a C considering he's lost 8 games in 2 years. That hasn't been done in over 20 years. The portal isn't a valid excuse considering everyone in America has to deal with it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:21 pm to New Money
Are you saying what I think you’re saying?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:22 pm to WG_Dawg
I felt Miroe was misused, but I also think he wasn't up to the caliber of his immediate predecessors at Bama.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:23 pm to Sun God
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Are you saying what I think you’re saying?
I have no idea as I don't know what you think I'm saying.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:25 pm to 3down10
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Our problems started under Saban, not DeBoer. Regardless of what fans want to believe, Saban wasn't getting the best assistants towards the end, and he himself had lost a lot of the intensity and discipline he had the previous decade. He had gotten soft, former players talk about it and he even has admitted it.
Yeah-I agree but he was so damn good that he still finished 11-2 and 12-2 and finished both years ranked 5th in the AP.
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Not to mention the completely different environment. No transfers for Les, no big change in systems, etc.
Not really a valid comparison.
While I agree it's totally different and Saban set LSU/Les up for a great run-he hardly left the cupboard bare for Kalen.
Kalen still had a team both years that were easily in the top 5 of composite talent.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to BlackCloud
Les Miles got to keep full stocked teams while Kalen got routed by transfer portal and NIL money buying up talent from Texas and the B1G.
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