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re: Just curious, does everyone still want Lane Kiffin?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:21 pm to notsince98
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:21 pm to notsince98
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I'd take him in a heartbeat.
But objectively speaking, Drink has done just as well with less to work with.
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:23 pm to DawginSC
Yea, OM is just a few years removed from a dumpster fire. Same thing when state fans started getting tired of Mullen towards the end of seasons. It's a quick fall from above average results for teams like OM and State if you make the wrong hire.
I would do all I could to keep Kiffin around. Next coach is a crap shoot. You have a coach that can get you in the playoff conversation every 2-4 years.
I would do all I could to keep Kiffin around. Next coach is a crap shoot. You have a coach that can get you in the playoff conversation every 2-4 years.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:24 pm to Landmass
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But objectively speaking, Drink has done just as well with less to work with.
I believe Drink had 5 guys on last year's defense that are now in the NFL and that defense was only a top30-35 defense.
I think people have a misconception of the amount of talent on Missouri these days. This is why Missouri fans are getting frustrated.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:27 pm to HogPharmer
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Do you?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:28 pm to Landmass
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But objectively speaking, Drink has done just as well with less to work with.
Look at the draft picks out of Missouri and I don't think you can say the same.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:30 pm to 3down10
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He's not mature enough yet for me, needs to cook longer.
If you’re not mature at 49 years old, you’ll never be.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:31 pm to Landmass
quote:This is the 2nd time today that I know of where you've insisted ole miss definitely lost the game, and LSU most definitely did not win it. You said the same of Kentucky in an earlier post. Here's the reality: ole miss lost to the better team. That's kinda-sorta the way it works 99.99% of the time when your team loses a football game.
No, it's not but the fact that we could have put that game away by halftime is undeniable. We left 30+ points on the field due to lack of execution and our own frick-ups.
Why did we continue to call "run up the middle" with Parrish when he couldn't get but a yard at most all game? Why did we not utilize our all-star tight end at all?
You insist that it's "undeniable" you could've put the game away by the half. Well, here in the real world, you didn't. You're delusional and you're at the coping stage. Kentucky and LSU are better teams this year than ole miss. It is what it is, and it's time to move on to the acceptance stage.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:35 pm to AUTubaHerd
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If you’re not mature at 49 years old, you’ll never be.
I'm fricked then.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:35 pm to mudshuvl05
This doesn't have anything to do with the LSU game except for the fact that coaching cost us that game. Take your little rants to another thread.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:36 pm to notsince98
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I believe Drink had 5 guys on last year's defense that are now in the NFL and that defense was only a top30-35 defense.
I think people have a misconception of the amount of talent on Missouri these days. This is why Missouri fans are getting frustrated.
Well, that is a good point. But also this season, Drink has lost 1 game and Kiffin has lost 2. So, my point stands.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:39 pm to CousinEDDIEEEE
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I would do all I could to keep Kiffin around. Next coach is a crap shoot. You have a coach that can get you in the playoff conversation every 2-4 years.
I never said that I wanted him gone. I am actually far more concerned with our next hire than I am at Kiffin leaving. We don't have a very good track record of hiring coaches. Of course, Carter has done well hiring coaches, as opposed to other ADs that we've had. Every AD we had prior to Carter has made budget hires at head coach. Carter isn't that way.
I just don't know who else out there would be any better than Lane at Ole Miss. Maybe nobody.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:40 pm to Landmass
As a Gator fan, I would love to take him and planning on it happening.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:40 pm to UFMatt
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As a Gator fan, I would love to take him
Ok, but does anything about his coaching concern you?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:42 pm to Landmass
quote:What does a football team consist of?
This doesn't have anything to do with the LSU game except for the fact that coaching cost us that game. Take your little rants to another thread.
The players and....? The coaches, that's right. Now you're getting it.
So circling back,
quote:They, like Kentucky, are a better team than ole miss this year. You can't separate the play playcalling (i.e., the coaches) from the players. It's one cohesive unit (or it's not).
except for the fact that coaching cost us that game.
quote:That's a nice little melt, keep on insisting, and I quote, "it's undeniable" ole miss would've put them away by the half, but it doesn't make you any less delusional, melt or not. The better team won. Period.
Take your little rants to another thread.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:42 pm to Landmass
I think yall should let him walk and use his buyout to hire his doppelganger Lincoln Riley,
He is at least .500 against LSU. Or maybe petition the SEC to play us in the first game of the season. I'm not sure we can beat anyone on labor day weekend.
He is at least .500 against LSU. Or maybe petition the SEC to play us in the first game of the season. I'm not sure we can beat anyone on labor day weekend.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:43 pm to mudshuvl05
Dude, take your little cowbell and go away.
We are discussing the topic of Kiffin on here.
We are discussing the topic of Kiffin on here.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:47 pm to Landmass
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But objectively speaking, Drink has done just as well with less to work with.
Drink is 34-22 at Mizzou. He's got 1 season with more than 6 wins (but will probably get his second this year).
Kiffin is 39-17 at Ole Miss. He's got one season with less than 7 wins (his first... a 5-win season in the 2020 covid year with only 10 games).
According to 247, Ole Miss has 30 players on their roster who were 4 or 5 star recruits. Mizzou has 29.
They've had the same amount to work with. Kiffin's done more. Both are pretty solid. Other teams with around the same talent are Arkansas (29 blue chips), South Carolina (30 blue chips), UNC (30 blue chips) and Kentucky (31 blue chips).
The issue is you THINK Ole Miss has more to work with... because Kiffin has had pretty solid success. But the recruits aren't in fact better than those other teams, even with transfer portal acquisitions.
Sometimes it's less about the coach and more about the school. An average coach can sometimes do big things at a great program. But sometimes it's more about the coach and less about the school.
That's Ole Miss under Kiffin.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:49 pm to Landmass
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We left 30+ points on the field due to lack of execution and our own frick-ups.
30 points?
I've got the Harris drop in the first quarter, a missed 32 yard field goal, and getting stopped on 4th and 1 in the redzone (maybe you score a TD, maybe a FG). That's, at most, 17 points.
What other points were left off the board for you to arrive at 30+?
Let's also not forget, LSU had a TD taken off the board on a dropped pass, missed another TD pass at the end of the 1st half, got stopped on 4th and 1 in Ole Miss territory, missed a FG, and missed an easy first down on a bad throw on 3rd down in the redzone
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:50 pm to Landmass
Dude, brah, bro,
That still doesn't negate the fact that the better team and coach won that day. As far as the cowbell comment goes, you're like a democrat projecting your own insecurities. Stop being a little bitch and take the L that lsu gave your school's team like a man.
And to answer your question in the op, hell yes I'd take kiffin, but only in 3 years after I see what Lebby can do.
quote:You got ratioed because you're melting and multiple times insisting that lsu didn't win, ole miss lost. That's not reality. Your team was not the better team. Was it because lane and the oc sucked it up? I don't know, because it's not my team, but if you say so, fine: the better team won. You can't make statements like above, then tell others to forget you said it, you moron.
No, it's not but the fact that we could have put that game away by halftime is undeniable. We left 30+ points on the field due to lack of execution and our own frick-ups.
That still doesn't negate the fact that the better team and coach won that day. As far as the cowbell comment goes, you're like a democrat projecting your own insecurities. Stop being a little bitch and take the L that lsu gave your school's team like a man.
And to answer your question in the op, hell yes I'd take kiffin, but only in 3 years after I see what Lebby can do.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:53 pm to Landmass
I'm old enough to know historically and presently the very best high school players from Mississippi don't tend to go to either Ole Miss or MSU. They usually end up at Bama, LSU, or the like. Mississippi has football talent but Ole Miss (and MSU) are at a disadvantage b/c you're splitting what you do have and that's routinely not the very best in a small pool of players. So, both MS SEC schools have had to depend on JUCO and now the transfer portal. This is why the MS SEC schools don't have the ceiling that some other SEC schools have. Kiffin is the best to ever coach at Ole Miss since Johnny Vaught. Frankly, Kiffin deserves a bigger job at this point. He's more than proven himself at Ole Miss.
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