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re: Just a quick question for y'all: is Vitello still considered the best coach in the SEC?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:52 am to skrayper
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:52 am to skrayper
JJ is a great coach but you could make the argument that his first natty was purely because he was a good coach, coaching at LSU. This natty this year was all his though. The difference is that Vitello didn't get to step into a program that had Dylan Crews and Tre Morgan already. They are both the two best coaches in the SEC I don't really care if LSU fans say that JJ is better cause 2 is more than 1. But also LSU fans need to give Tony his credit for building a program that had nothing going for it. Both are perfect fits for what they are trying to do. JJ is using the resources at his disposal to reawaken that dynasty. Vitello is using his us vs them mentality to make Tennessee the eternal underdogs. Both have been successful
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Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:56 am to VFL67
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The difference is that Vitello didn't get to step into a program that had Dylan Crews and Tre Morgan already.
Jay gets the most out of his teams in the postseason.
Tony Vs teams have more chokejobs than natties
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:01 am to skrayper
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I'm not saying Vitello is better than Johnson (and I even state that Johnson is PROBABLY BETTER) in the very sentence you quote, but if you want an actual discussion on who the better coach is, it stands to reason that you want to look at all the factors. Like when debating who's the best SEC coach ever in football, an easy choice is Nick Saban, but one could argue Spurrier took over the more middling program (not a complete dumpster fire, but Florida had not won more than 7 games in several years by the time he took over).
Appreciate the additional clarification. I don’t disagree.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:02 am to magildachunks
1. Jay is #1. He took Arizona to Omaha twice and now with LSU he’s won two natty’s.
2. Corbin
3. DVH - realize he hasn’t won it all, but his program is elite year in, and year out.
4. Vitello - Unlike, most of my fellow LSU fans, I really like Tony V. Tenn will win another Title under him. He will most likely pass up both DVH and Corbin over the next 5 years.
I don’t care beyond the top 4.
2. Corbin
3. DVH - realize he hasn’t won it all, but his program is elite year in, and year out.
4. Vitello - Unlike, most of my fellow LSU fans, I really like Tony V. Tenn will win another Title under him. He will most likely pass up both DVH and Corbin over the next 5 years.
I don’t care beyond the top 4.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:06 am to whatiknowsofar
I mean didnt LSU have Tre Morgan and Dylan Crews and didn't make it out the regionals in 2022? I don't think anyone should say Vitello or JJ have underachieved. As a whole I think the argument could be made that both have overrachived. No one expected anything from Vitello when he was hired. No one expected JJ to win 2 nattys in 4 years. both have rewritten the expectations from when they were hired.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 11:07 am
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:31 am to VFL67
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mean didnt LSU have Tre Morgan and Dylan Crews and didn't make it out the regionals in 2022?
They didn't have the pitching that year or enough bats.
Tony had a dominant, great regular season team that got knocked out in the supers at home. That's choking.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:34 am to magildachunks
He never was.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:39 am to VFL67
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I mean didnt LSU have Tre Morgan and Dylan Crews and didn't make it out the regionals in 2022?
Yes, but Dude, you win with pitching first and hitting second. Our best pitcher, and “Ace”, if you want to call him that in 2022, would have been a role player pitcher on the 2023 team and this years team. He wouldn’t have started any SEC games and would have only pitched in certain situations this year.
Jay inherited a team totally devoid of pitching talent. And the best pitcher in the team got hurt very early in the season and didn’t pitch at all in SEC play or for the rest of the season.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:41 am to rich4pres
Of course, not (FIFY)
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:45 am to FredbullTN
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Ma’Khail Hilliard as the Friday night “ace” his first year
How are you going to talk about my fourth cousin?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:53 am to themetalreb
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Just another reason baseball is total arse.
A random and biased list on an anonymous message board is a reason baseball is arse? You're an odd person.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:10 pm to magildachunks
Of course not. Vitello is still pretty damn solid though. Where he hurts himself imo, is allowing some of the player antics. When building a program, I can see where it was useful, but now that you have arrived, it seems you would dial that back a bit. In his defense, he did do that somewhat this year.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:21 pm to magildachunks
He never was.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:05 pm to magildachunks
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Just a quick question for y'all: is Vitello still considered the best coach in the SEC?
Heck yeah, he’s a regular gene Chizik I tell ya……hahahaha
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:18 pm to SofaKingTrill
quote:I mean you could at least try to not be completely biased when talking. Yeah there were a couple of shite years after the title but OM baseball has ended the season ranked in the top 10 in 11 of the last 20 seasons.
If Bianco were ever capable of sustaining a top tier program, he might be listed.
By pretty much every single definition, that’s a top tier program. And having it at a better than half clip over a 20 year stretch would seem to me like it was “sustained”. Especially considering there was a stretch of 5 years where they finished 9, 9, 1 (china virus), 10, 1.
I’m not arguing Bianco should be ranked a top 4 coach in conference and I do think we should move on from him, but it’s very disingenuous to say he is incapable of sustaining a top tier program.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 6:58 pm to VFL67
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2 nattys in 4 years
It’s 2 in the last 3 years actually.
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