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re: Johnny Manziel Suspended First Half Against Rice (NOW OFFICIAL)

Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:36 pm to
And the ones crying the hardest want Manziel suspended without any proof. Is that correct? Because "everyone knows he did it for money?" When the NCAA comes to your school, you'll probably want a little proof before they punish you.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Clowney didnt sign 5000 autographs in different sessions


Who did? I'm mostly serious. The only "evidence" there is that Manziel signed that many are ESPN repeating brokers who won't give their name for anybody's record and who have a clear agenda against Manziel. I don't think he's innocent and don't particularly like the guy, but I also haven't seen anything that makes me think he's more guilty than Clowney et. al.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21298 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:37 pm to
Agreed. There were shenanigans.
Posted by justmebeno
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
1867 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:45 pm to
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Yet, you can play Jeremy Hill and not suspend him a game... RIIIGGGHTTTT

Hill's wasn't an NCAA violation.




Who said Jeremy Hill was playing? Hope you are RIIIGGGHTTTT!
Posted by Harryk15
Member since Jan 2013
560 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:45 pm to
Mizzou fan, there is zero evidence he took money. Are you saying they should suspend him anyway? It's not about a preponderance standard, it's about people like you being butthurt that they couldn't find anything. Stop whining and deal with it
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:49 pm to
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Mizzou fan, there is zero evidence he took money. Are you saying they should suspend him anyway? It's not about a preponderance standard, it's about people like you being butthurt that they couldn't find anything. Stop whining and deal with it


Harryk15, we are currently also dealing with a situation in which there is zero evidence that our head basketball coach, Frank Haith, gave money to a recruit while at another institution, but yet for *two years* we have been waiting for the NCAA to make a goddam ruling or some sort of statement that he's clear to coach. We've gotten nothing. Two years worth of negative recruiting against Mizzou by other coaches who can say its not stable to come here cuz our coach could be fired if the NCAA penalizes him. What is the difference between that and Manziel? Why did the NCAA "not believe" Haith's statements but chose to believe Manziel's story that he sat in a hotel room and signed hundreds of autographs for hours cuz he's just that nice a guy? I'm not butthurt at all just wondering where the consistency is, and pointing out the reality that it is economics that controlled Manziel's agreement with the NCAA, not evidence. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I'm not a t-sip so I won't make an aggy joke there, but you're pushing for one.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:51 pm to
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Mizzou fan, there is zero evidence he took money. Are you saying they should suspend him anyway? It's not about a preponderance standard, it's about people like you being butthurt that they couldn't find anything. Stop whining and deal with it


Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:52 pm to
I don't know anyone who doesn't believe he was paid and then lied about it. Some are just glad he got away with it, some aren't.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:53 pm to
tampa, you don't even know what I'm talking about do you bro
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

What is the difference between that and Manziel? Why did the NCAA "not believe" Haith's statements but chose to believe Manziel's story that he sat in a hotel room and signed hundreds of autographs for hours cuz he's just that nice a guy? I'm not butthurt at all just wondering where the consistency is


Well, there you have it. The inconsistency. Why did the NCAA spend a year in AU checking out lies and innuendo but refused to even set foot in Tuscaloosa to check on all the suspicious activity at T-Town Menswear. Maybe it's who you know in power. I have no idea.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:57 pm to
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Well, there you have it. The inconsistency. Why did the NCAA spend a year in AU checking out lies and innuendo but refused to even set foot in Tuscaloosa to check on all the suspicious activity at T-Town Menswear. Maybe it's who you know in power. I have no idea.


That's all I'm saying, chief. So ease up.
Posted by Harryk15
Member since Jan 2013
560 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
Mizzou, I understand your frustration with the Haith situation, the NCAA acknowledged that if any other information comes to light they will reopen the case. However the only sources they have are these brokers and they are absolutely not going to talk. Their only chance besides that was to have Manziel admit he took the money, which he denied. I don't know what the particulars of the Haith case are so I'm not gonna get into that. However two wrongs don't make a right. They didn't find anything and they acted accordingly, I hope they do the same for mizzou soon
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
25024 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
Johnny Manziel is a good boy.

He comes from a classy family.

You can go back through his family history and find one classy person after another doing honorable and ethical things to make honest money.

That grad assistant was a douche and deserved to have his arse kicked.

ESPN are haters and don't nothin bout nothin.

JFF is the greatest football player of all time. He could pitch tonight for the Yankees if he wasn't so busy fricking all the hot bitches and drinking and being the badass 20 y.o. you wish you were or had been.

JFF has a Mercedes.

Johnny is an honest young man who always puts his teammates best needs and his university's best interests before personal gain and selfishness.

Johnny signed 4400 autographs and didn't take a penny because he's just that caring, nice, and friendly.

Johnny is an honorable Aggie through and through.

A&M has a strict honor code and Johnny is a fine example of that.

Johnny will lead A&M to a National Championship and be only the second player to win back-to-back Heismans.

Johnny will go pro and end up the greatest NFL player of all time and win 7 Superbowls.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:59 pm to



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tampa, you don't even know what I'm talking about do you bro


Acutally I was responding to someone else - His quote had your name in it - but I do know what you're talking about - the hypocrisy of the NCAA coupled with that of the media. Sickening.
Posted by cheezag03
H-town
Member since Sep 2011
608 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:01 pm to
Othello speaks the truth. Thanks for your kind words.
Posted by taylormade
Bakerhill
Member since Jan 2011
9883 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Bama is so fricked on 9/14. The amount of rage in Kyle Field that night will make them cry

I know, right? Now, if only all that anger doesn't bleed off in the games leading up to 'Bama.

All y'all need now is Johnelle Smith on the sidelines to keep your piss hot!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:05 pm to
So let it be written. ....

SO LET IT BE DONE
Posted by TwelfthMan
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:05 pm to
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we are currently also dealing with a situation in which there is zero evidence that our head basketball coach, Frank Haith, gave money to a recruit while at another institution, but yet for *two years* we have been waiting for the NCAA to make a goddam ruling or some sort of statement that he's clear to coach. We've gotten nothing. Two years worth of negative recruiting against Mizzou by other coaches who can say its not stable to come here cuz our coach could be fired if the NCAA penalizes him. What is the difference between that and Manziel?


You need the number of some good attorneys?
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21298 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:06 pm to
The SEC should have that firm on speed dial.
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