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Jimbo Fisher Analysis @ Texas A&M (updated)
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:12 pm
Jimbo Fisher is 29-12 at Texas A&M
12-0 Vs Teams with a Losing Record *
(combined record 30-86 not including 12 A&M losses)
8-0 Vs Kent State, New Mexico, UAB, UTSA, ULM, Texas State, Northwestern State & Lamar
3-0 Vs Favorable Bowl Opponents
6-12 Vs Teams with a Winning Record **
(below are the 6 wins)
2018 W over 7-5 South Carolina by 3 pts
(South Carolina lost their bowl game 28-0)
2018 W over 10-2 LSU in 7 OT
(LSU lost this game more than A&M won it.)
2018 W over 10-2 Kentucky in OT
(Kentucky also lost to 4-7 Tennessee by 17 points)
2020 W over 6-4 Auburn
(Auburn also lost to 1-8 South Carolina)
2020 W over 5-4 LSU
(LSU also lost to 2-7 Miss State)
2020 W over 8-3 Florida by 3 points
(Florida also lost by 35 points to Oklahoma)
Footnotes:
* Colorado is assumed to finish with a losing record
** Arkansas & Miss State are assumed to finish with a winning record
Link: 2018-2020 Analysis
12-0 Vs Teams with a Losing Record *
(combined record 30-86 not including 12 A&M losses)
8-0 Vs Kent State, New Mexico, UAB, UTSA, ULM, Texas State, Northwestern State & Lamar
3-0 Vs Favorable Bowl Opponents
6-12 Vs Teams with a Winning Record **
(below are the 6 wins)
2018 W over 7-5 South Carolina by 3 pts
(South Carolina lost their bowl game 28-0)
2018 W over 10-2 LSU in 7 OT
(LSU lost this game more than A&M won it.)
2018 W over 10-2 Kentucky in OT
(Kentucky also lost to 4-7 Tennessee by 17 points)
2020 W over 6-4 Auburn
(Auburn also lost to 1-8 South Carolina)
2020 W over 5-4 LSU
(LSU also lost to 2-7 Miss State)
2020 W over 8-3 Florida by 3 points
(Florida also lost by 35 points to Oklahoma)
Footnotes:
* Colorado is assumed to finish with a losing record
** Arkansas & Miss State are assumed to finish with a winning record
Link: 2018-2020 Analysis
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:13 pm to BigBro
What a surprise, another A&M post …
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:13 pm to BigBro
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** Arkansas & Miss State are assumed to finish with a winning record
print the shirts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:15 pm to BigBro
I can give you a far better analysis than that.
Here is an analysis of first half scoring vs. results.
When scoring < 7 points at the half: 1-6 (Colorado 2021 was the only win)
When scoring 7-13 points at the half: 8-4 (Alabama 2018, Mississippi State 2018, Alabama 2019, Mississippi State 2021)
When scoring 14-17 points at the half: 7-2 (Auburn 2018 and Alabama 2020 were the only losses)
When scoring > 17 points at the half: 13-0
To summarize: Fisher/Elko scoring fewer than 14 points at the half = 9-10. 14 or more points at the half = 20-2.
When allowing < 7 first half points: 11-0
When allowing 7-13 first half points: 13-2 (2018 Mississippi State, 2019 Georgia were the only losses)
When allowing 14-17 first half points: 4-6 (2018 Ole Miss, 2019 Arkansas, 2019 Oklahoma State, 2020 Arkansas were the wins)
When allowing > 17 first half points: 1-4 (2020 Florida was the only win)
To summarize: Fisher/Elko allowing fewer than 14 points at the half = 24-2. 14 or more points at the half = 5-10.
In case you are wondering about non-offensive touchdowns, there have been very few scored or allowed under this coaching staff: Of the seven total games in which a non-offensive touchdown was scored by either team, A&M is 6-1 (Alabama 2020)
Here is an analysis of first half scoring vs. results.
When scoring < 7 points at the half: 1-6 (Colorado 2021 was the only win)
When scoring 7-13 points at the half: 8-4 (Alabama 2018, Mississippi State 2018, Alabama 2019, Mississippi State 2021)
When scoring 14-17 points at the half: 7-2 (Auburn 2018 and Alabama 2020 were the only losses)
When scoring > 17 points at the half: 13-0
To summarize: Fisher/Elko scoring fewer than 14 points at the half = 9-10. 14 or more points at the half = 20-2.
When allowing < 7 first half points: 11-0
When allowing 7-13 first half points: 13-2 (2018 Mississippi State, 2019 Georgia were the only losses)
When allowing 14-17 first half points: 4-6 (2018 Ole Miss, 2019 Arkansas, 2019 Oklahoma State, 2020 Arkansas were the wins)
When allowing > 17 first half points: 1-4 (2020 Florida was the only win)
To summarize: Fisher/Elko allowing fewer than 14 points at the half = 24-2. 14 or more points at the half = 5-10.
In case you are wondering about non-offensive touchdowns, there have been very few scored or allowed under this coaching staff: Of the seven total games in which a non-offensive touchdown was scored by either team, A&M is 6-1 (Alabama 2020)
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:16 pm to BigBro
Fisher was a burnt out coaching case when he left FSU. Said so at the time.
So glad that aggy got him, and not LSU. (at least we got a natty out of our clown coach)
So glad that aggy got him, and not LSU. (at least we got a natty out of our clown coach)
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:18 pm to 308
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So glad that aggy got him, and not LSU.
Just wait until he replaces Orgeron.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:18 pm to BigBro
Jimbo's 2012 recruiting class landed him Jameis Winston and Sean Maguire.
Winston was obviously a great talent and Maguire was serviceable.
After that, however, the wheels fell off the proverbial wagon.
**2013**
John Franklin III
Transferred to East Mississippi Community College, then to Auburn, then to Florida Atlantic where he played receiver. Made the NFL as a defensive back.
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2014**
JJ Cosentino
Left the team after being the third string quarterback for most of his four years with the program
**2015**
Deondre Francois
Kicked off team due to a domestic dispute then transferred to Hampton
DeAndre Johnson
Kicked off team after punching a woman at a bar, then transferred to East Mississippi Community College, then to Florida Atlantic, and finally to Texas Southern
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2016**
Malik Henry
Kicked off team due to rule violations, transferred to Independence Community College but was also kicked off that team. Walked on at Nevada but ultimately left the program.
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2017**
James Blackman
Transferred to Arkansas State
Bailey Hockman
Transferred to North Carolina State, then to Middle Tennessee State. Now retired.
**2018**
James Foster
Transferred to Charlotte
**2019**
Zach Calzada
Lost the starting job at Texas A&M to Haynes King but took over after King's injury. Thus far, has statistically been one of the worst quarterbacks in the SEC.
**2020**
Haynes King
Won the starting job at Texas A&M after Kellen Mond left for the NFL draft. Threw 2 touchdowns and 3 interceptions against Kent State before being injured against Colorado in his second start.
**2021**
Eli Stowers
Already moved to tight end.
Winston was obviously a great talent and Maguire was serviceable.
After that, however, the wheels fell off the proverbial wagon.
**2013**
John Franklin III
Transferred to East Mississippi Community College, then to Auburn, then to Florida Atlantic where he played receiver. Made the NFL as a defensive back.
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2014**
JJ Cosentino
Left the team after being the third string quarterback for most of his four years with the program
**2015**
Deondre Francois
Kicked off team due to a domestic dispute then transferred to Hampton
DeAndre Johnson
Kicked off team after punching a woman at a bar, then transferred to East Mississippi Community College, then to Florida Atlantic, and finally to Texas Southern
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2016**
Malik Henry
Kicked off team due to rule violations, transferred to Independence Community College but was also kicked off that team. Walked on at Nevada but ultimately left the program.
Appeared on Last Chance U
**2017**
James Blackman
Transferred to Arkansas State
Bailey Hockman
Transferred to North Carolina State, then to Middle Tennessee State. Now retired.
**2018**
James Foster
Transferred to Charlotte
**2019**
Zach Calzada
Lost the starting job at Texas A&M to Haynes King but took over after King's injury. Thus far, has statistically been one of the worst quarterbacks in the SEC.
**2020**
Haynes King
Won the starting job at Texas A&M after Kellen Mond left for the NFL draft. Threw 2 touchdowns and 3 interceptions against Kent State before being injured against Colorado in his second start.
**2021**
Eli Stowers
Already moved to tight end.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:20 pm to BigBro
quote:
6-12 Vs Teams with a Winning Record **
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
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James Foster
Transferred to Charlotte
You're not telling the complete story on Foster. He was signed at the absolute last minute because Sumlin left nothing in the class (of course Foster is still > Martrell, but that's a different story). Foster's CAREER stats, including Charlotte, are as follows:
Games played: 4
8-17-0 passing for 95 yards
8 carries for 12 yards rushing
Here are the quarterbacks offered but signed elsewhere. (realistic only)
2018 class: Spencer Sanders (Oklahoma State)
2019 class: Grant Gunnell (Arizona), KJ Jefferson (Arkansas)
2020 class: Malik Hornsby (Arkansas)
2021 class: Quinn Ewers (Ohio State), Jalen Milroe (Alabama), Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Preston Stone (SMU), Behren Morton (Texas Tech)
2022 class: If we can keep Weigman it will be the best QB prospect by far that Fisher signed
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:22 pm to BigBro
Thank you for the interest in our program.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:
James Foster
The better question is..
Foster or Calzone? Who are you rolling with?
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
They probably should've just grabbed Burrow out of the portal.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:23 pm to cokebottleag
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Thank you for the interest in our program.
Upvote for consistency..
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:25 pm to cokebottleag
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Thank you for the interest in our program.
Downvote for believing anybody actually gives a shite about your program
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:28 pm to TexasForever
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Downvote for believing anybody actually gives a shite about your program
I care. I want them to curl up into the fetal position so that we can flip Bryce Anderson.. Maybe an OL.. and maybe Weigman. I heard Sark is looking for another QB in 2022.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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They probably should've just grabbed Burrow out of the portal.
Transfer Portal didn't take effect until after Burrow already transferred to LSU.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Just wait until he replaces Orgeron.
Does this mean A&M will be paying our coach?
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:31 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Does this mean A&M will be paying our coach?
Maybe y’all should agree to a swap?
Who says no?
Posted on 10/3/21 at 2:31 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Does this mean A&M will be paying our coach?
No, if you take Fisher, the balance is reset to 0 on all sides. No remaining payments and no penalty owed.
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