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re: Jim Chaney to become VOLS OC

Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:54 pm to
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I like Chaney, think he could be successful at UT without Pittman, but what has he done in the last 15 years to make UT fans think he’ll have success without Pittman?



His first 3 seasons at UT were without Pittman. Hell, I don't think they'd ever coached together before their 1 season at UT together.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 11:56 pm
Posted by MenloDawg
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:16 am to
That’s my point. His UT offenses without Pittman were in the bottom half of the conference in yards/play, total yards and ppg. His Pitt offense without Pittman was terrible. Even with Pittman his Arkansas offenses and 2016 UGA offense were bottom half of the league. He’s had three good years as an OC since leaving Joe Tiller in 2005. They all came with Pittman as his OL coach and after Chaney was at a program for multiple years.

If you get Pittman it’s an absolute coup. I don’t see that happening given the relationship between Pruitt and Friend. If you don’t get Pittman, history says you have to give it a couple years and cross your fingers that Will Friend is Pittman reincarnated. Otherwise you’ll see some improvement over 2018, but still an offense that flounders in the bottom half of the league.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:22 am to
There were also injuries and OL play to account for that (Kiffin had to use walk-ons) while Dooley started with true freshmen. As well as injuries, including significant ones to Bray and Hunter. Under both Kiffin and Dooley he put up points when players were healthy. And believe me he got all that was possible out of Sims as poor a QB with a shitty line as he was.

You're confusing our line who all started out as a true freshman and sophomore unit going into their junior year and our QB and WRs finally being healthy for Pittman's doing.

Offense was never a problem before Pittman but our offense did get better when the QB, WRs, and OL all became juniors at the same time. Pittman happened to arrive at the same time.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 12:27 am
Posted by MenloDawg
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:34 am to
I recall there being some extenuating circumstances, but as an opposing fan I would take 2009-2011 UT offenses for the next three years in a heartbeat. On the whole, they were brutal. I think he broke 20 twice against Big Six teams in those three years.

As UT fan I would be excited about the hire, but very cautious without Pittman. Obviously you should be thrilled if you pull Pittman. As an opposing fan, I’ll have to see him finish with an offense in the top of half of the league without Pittman before I believe it can happen.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:05 am to
Pittman isn't a magic talisman that makes Chaney work. He's a damn good OL coach tho.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 1:06 am
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:13 am to
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Chaney coached under Lane Kiffin and Derek Dooley as the Vols went 23-27 with him calling plays.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:46 am to
Pruitt ain't playing. Georgia will likely promote Pittman now to keep from getting 2 L's. Although this is not official and you can believe the Dawgs will come back @ Chaney with a massive offer. IF this is for real.....IF!
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:06 am to
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Dawgs will come back @ Chaney with a massive offer.


last few reports I read, UGA already threw more money at Chaney to get him to stay but don't think it worked. Supposed to be introduced Weds in Knoxville so guess we'll see. Big move by Pruitt if this is official.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:22 am to
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you can believe the Dawgs will come back @ Chaney with a massive offer


The offer was to Chaney on Monday. UGA took the day and decided not to counter offer. That is why the news broke last night and not when the numbers were first presented Monday.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:46 am to
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last few reports I read, UGA already threw more money at Chaney to get him to stay but don't think it worked


As always the case, it depends on what article you’re reading. Mansell said Chaney had a “mega offer” from Tennessee and UGA didn’t even counter. Sounds like Kirby was more than comfortable letting him walk.

As for Pittman, I don’t see UT firing Friend. I’d watch Bama if Key leaves for GT. They’ll take a swing at Pittman.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:58 am to
Honestly, I think Chaney was the guy back in December after Freeze was nixed by the admin as well as Briles, and we were asked to not release it until after the bowl season was over.

Per reports (not sauces) Georgia did try to counter offer, and we countered the counter.

We are still talking with Tee Martin, who would come back as position coach+ Co-OC. If we get Tee back home, it's fricking huge. Tee is a damn good position coach and is a cheat code on the recruiting trail.


Pittman would have made this a Grand Slam hire, but I do think keeping Friend isn't the worst thing in the world, he can coach. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that Friend will get offered another OC position next year, and then we make a real run at Pittman, who absolutely loved working at Tennessee and was shunned by that tomato faced hedgehog figgot Lyle Jones.
Posted by Dawgsfan81
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:02 am to
Chaney could scheme and prepare a good game plan, where he failed was adjusting during the game. He never utilized the good TEs we had as a weapon.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:10 am to
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He never utilized the good TEs we had as a weapon.




I don't know, that Fumblerooski he called for Nauta was pretty damn creative
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:11 am to
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Chaney could scheme and prepare a good game plan, where he failed was adjusting during the game. He never utilized the good TEs we had as a weapon.


My biggest gripe is the predictable and unimaginative play calling. He called 20 yard routes on 3&4, never used his TE’s, and would run up the middle with the 7-8 guys in the box. He was a good OC, better than Arkansas and Tennessee fans gave him credit for, but his offense is stuck in 1985
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:56 am to
Maybe not, but I don’t think it can be said definitively that Chaney has done anything in the past 15 or so years without him that scares anybody. That would be my only concern as a UT fan. That’s not to say Friend can’t get the job done.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:59 am to
Great they can run a TE screen on 3rd & 1 when all you need is to run the clock for a W
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:01 am to
I actually liked Chaney. Some Georgia posters do, a lot of them do not.

I think he is very solid, and does a good job. He did have a couple of questionable games, most notably LSU, but overall did a very solid job.

Wasn't it Tennessee and Arkansas fans telling us he was awful, though when he first came to Georgia? I didn't find that to be the case at all.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
5513 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:06 am to
Great they can run a TE screen on 3rd & 1 when all you need is to run the clock for a W
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:18 am to
Ugh he kinda of is. Where he goes 5 star OL follow.

Chaney is about ready to retire soon, it's not like the guy hits the trail hard as his peers.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:30 am to
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Eh, our QB got about 100 times better when Chaney left and Enos took over. Might have more to do with Enos but still.


Meh...Tennessee's offense averaged 36 points per game in Chaney's last season as OC (2012). Bray threw for 3600 yards and averaged over 8 yds/attempt.
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