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re: ITT we decide once and for all who RBU is

Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:11 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:11 am to
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You have to rely on awards determined by others's opinions since you can't win on the actual stats.




2008
- Glen Coffee 1,383 yards
- Mark Ingram 728 yards

2009
- Mark Ingram 1,658 yards
- Trent Richardson 751 yards

2010
- Mark Ingram 875 yards
- Trent Richardson 700 yards
- Eddie Lacy 406 yards

2011
- Trent Richardson 1,679 yards
- Eddie Lacy 674 yards
- Jalston Fowler 385 yards

2012
- Eddie Lacy 1,322 yards
- TJ Yeldon 1,108 yards

2013
- TJ Yeldon 1,235 yards
- Kenyan Drake 694 yards
- Derrick Henry 382 yards

2014
- Derrick Henry 990 yards
- TJ Yeldon 979 yards

2015
- Derrick Henry 2,219 yards
- Kenyan Drake 408 yards
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:12 am to
WHATS THEIR YPC?!?!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:13 am to
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WHATS THEIR YPC?!?!


Doak Walker Award? Who uses that to determine whether a running back is any good?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47284 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:14 am to
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So, yea, those guys aren't gonna be on any all-time yardage lists.


Fournette split with MaGee and Hilliard his first year. Will also split with Guice next year.

He's likely going to end up on that list.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29385 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:14 am to
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WHATS THEIR YPC?!?!



Less than RBU's.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92241 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:15 am to
Did I mentioned that 2013 Auburn displayed the most dominant rushing attack in SEC history? From running backs, to wide receivers to quarterbacks...it was the all-time best rushing offense in SEC history.

4,596 yards, 6.3 yards per carry, 48 touchdowns and 328 yards per game...in the SEC. Against the best of the best.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:15 am to
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Fournette split with MaGee and Hilliard his first year. Will also split with Guice next year.

He's likely going to end up on that list.



Fournette will have been the feature back for 3 seasons.

Only 1 of our guys was the feature back for more than 1 season, and that was Ingram in 2009 and 2010. The rest were the 2nd or 3rd back for 1 year and then the feature back for 1 year.

Come on now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:16 am to
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ll-time best rushing offense in SEC history



Hang dat mudda fudgin bannah
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:18 am to
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Fournette split with MaGee and Hilliard his first year. Will also split with Guice next year.

He's likely going to end up on that list.


His argument is number of years given a significant amount of carries not about splitting carries
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29385 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:18 am to
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Did I mentioned that 2013 Auburn displayed the most dominant rushing attack in SEC history? From running backs, to wide receivers to quarterbacks...it was the all-time best rushing offense in SEC history.

4,596 yards, 6.3 yards per carry, 48 touchdowns and 328 yards per game...in the SEC. Against the best of the best.


That's cool, but we're talking about RBU, not Rushing Attack U.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47284 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:18 am to
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Fournette will have been the feature back for 3 seasons.

Only 1 of our guys was the feature back for more than 1 season, and that was Ingram in 2009 and 2010. The rest were the 2nd or 3rd back for 1 year and then the feature back for 1 year.

Come on now.


So it's Fournette's fault he's better than other NFL backs while Bama's players can't say the same?

"Come on now"
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:20 am to
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His argument is number of years given a significant amount of carries not about splitting carries


Yes

Fournette
2014 - 187 carries
2015 - 300 carries
2016 - 300 carries *

T. Richardson
2009 - 145 carries
2010 - 112 carries
2011 - 283 carries

Yeldon
2012 - 175 carries
2013 - 207 carries
2014 - 194 carries

Lacy
2010 - 56 carries
2011 - 95 carries
2012 - 204 carries

Henry
2013 - 36 carries
2014 - 172 carries
2015 - 395 carries


* - estimate
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:22 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:20 am to
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So it's Fournette's fault he's better than other NFL backs while Bama's players can't say the same?



Yea, that's it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47284 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:21 am to
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His argument is number of years given a significant amount of carries not about splitting carries


Well, Yeldon had more carries in 2013 & 2014 than Fournette did his 1st year. Yet, Yeldon's 2014 year qualifies as a "split" year for him.

Just sayin
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:23 am to
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Well, Yeldon had more carries in 2013 & 2014 than Fournette did his 1st year. Yet, Yeldon's 2014 year qualifies as a "split" year for him.

Just sayin



Yeldon had 576 career carries, Lacy had 355, Richardson had 540, Henry had 603. Fournette already has 487 in 2 seasons and will end with roughly 750-775 carries.

And Derek Henry is 13th all time in yards on those 603 attempts. TJ Yeldon is 20th all-time. Mark Ingram is 23rd all-time. Trent Richardson is 29th all-time.

So, 4 all-time top 30 rushing stat leaders in the SEC in a 8 year period (not including Lacy who had many less carries than even those guys).
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:27 am
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92241 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:23 am to
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That's cool, but we're talking about RBU, not Rushing Attack U.
All-time? Last 10 years? Right now?

Bo Jackson
Carnell Williams
James Brooks
Joe Cribbs
Ben Tate
Tre Mason
Stephen Davis
Brent Fullwood
Ronnie Brown
Kenny Irons
Mike Dyer
Lionel James
James Bostic
Rudi Johnson
Cam Artis-Payne
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31921 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:26 am to
2002
-Fred Talley 1,119 yards
-Matt Jones 614 yards

2003
-Cedric Cobbs 1,320 yards
-Matt Jones 770 yards

2004
-Matt Jones 744 yards
-De'Arius Howard 591 yards

2005
-Darren McFadden 1,113 yards
-Felix Jones 626 yards

2006
-Darren McFadden 1,647 yards
-Felix Jones 1,168 yards

2007
-Darren McFadden 1,830 yards
-Felix Jones 1,199 yards

2008
-Michael Smith 1,072 yards
-Dennis Johnson 182 yards

2009
-Broderick Green 449 yards
-Michael Smith 413 yards

2010
-Knile Davis 1,322 yards
-Broderick Green 365 yards

2011
-Dennis Johnson 720 yards
-Ronnie Wingo 422 yards

2012
-Dennis Johnson 757 yards
-Knile Davis 444 yards

2013
-Alex Collins 1,026 yards
-Jonathan Williams 900 yards

2014
-Jonathan Williams 1,190 yards
-Alex Collins 1,100 yards

2015
-Alex Collins 1,577 yards
-Kody Walker 410 yards
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47284 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:28 am to
So, Fournette is going to do something in three years, while splitting carries for two of them, that most RBs in the conference, including Bama's stretch of great RBs, couldn't do in four?

Which is what I said from the beginning.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28542 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:28 am to
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-Matt Jones 614 yards


come on man
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:29 am to
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So, Fournette is going to do something in three years, while splitting carries for two of them, that most RBs in the conference, including Bama's stretch of great RBs, couldn't do in four?


(a) Fournette is great. Is anyone arguing Fournette isn't great? I will say it again, Fournette is great.

(b) Fournette will end his career with 100+ more carries than anybody Alabama has had during the Saban era. So, he should rank higher than any of them on an all-time yardage list.
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