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re: it looks like Heisman is a one game award and not a season award
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
Let us break it down further,
LF has 2.8 YAC per attempt
DH has 2.51 YAC per attempt
LF has 2.8 YAC per attempt
DH has 2.51 YAC per attempt
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:07 pm to aspiclark
quote:Except you are completely wrong. Nobody gets more YAC per attempt than LF
if anyone has had to earn his yardage this year, it's DH210.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
you said he had more yac, but DH210 does. you posted the numbers yourself.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:09 pm to lsupride87
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Yeh when you look at Mcfaddens numbers and melvin gordons and realize they didnt win it but then Ingram did you kinda shake your head
The knock on the heisman then was that a sophmore couldnt win the heisman. Tebow won it the next year as a sophmore.
Adrian Peterson had 1900 yards rushing as a freshman. The case was made against him being a freshman.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:09 pm to aspiclark
Imagine in Henry had all those NFL wideouts and the best QB and OL in the conference to help him out.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:10 pm to CatsGoneWild
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If one game makes someone lose an award,
I don't think it will be based on this one game. If he disappears from here on out then yes. But if he goes back to running for 200 yards against everybody, I think it will come down to him and Henry.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:10 pm to aspiclark
quote:Alright Im out because just you the troll is here. When NC14 and others who were having discussion were replying this was an ok thread
you said he had more yac, but DH210 does. you posted the numbers yourself.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:11 pm to lsupride87
I mean you keep saying I'm trolling but that is literally what the numbers you posted say. you keep moving the goalposts. that's what trolls usually do btw.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:11 pm to Lg
This thread took a shittastic turn somewhere along the way. The bottom line is if Fournette doesn't disappear the rest of the year and puts up 150+yds per game and LSU is siting at 10-1 he will win the Heisman. It's pretty much that simple.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:12 pm to Lg
quote:Yep. No matter what LSU fans say, Henry deserves to be in this discussion. His numbers are less than LF because he didnt get the carries early in the year. Kiffin is finally feeding him. After this weekend, they will have two common oppents to compare too: MSU and Arky. It should be a clearer picture come Sunday
I don't think it will be based on this one game. If he disappears from here on out then yes. But if he goes back to running for 200 yards against everybody, I think it will come down to him and Henry.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
At this point the Heisman should go to bama's defensive front seven.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:15 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:I was extremely impressed with them Saturday. No doubt there is no such thing as running up the middle against that crew. Will be fun this weekend to see how they do against stretch runs and read options to see if they have finally gelled and become a complete unit
At this point the Heisman should go to bama's defensive front seven.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:16 pm to PygmalionEffect
heisman committee: we're giving the trophy to a running back this year.
A'shawn Robinson: no the frick you ain't.
heisman committee: you right.
A'shawn Robinson: no the frick you ain't.
heisman committee: you right.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:16 pm to Bham Bammer
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Imagine in Henry had all those NFL wideouts and the best QB and OL in the conference to help him out.
Swap LF7 and Henry.. Henry running behind LSUs OL against the Bama DL probably gets shut out worse than LF7 did. Put LF7 behind the Bama OL vs the LSU DL and he's probably still running. There were several big runs Henry had the LF7 would have taken all the way.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:16 pm to lsupride87
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Yep. No matter what LSU fans say, Henry deserves to be in this discussion. His numbers are less than LF because he didnt get the carries early in the year. Kiffin is finally feeding him. After this weekend, they will have two common oppents to compare too: MSU and Arky. It should be a clearer picture come Sunday
you realize he has 23 more carries than LF7 right? avearging 5.75 ypc, LF7 averaging 7.1 ypc
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:
it looks like Heisman is a one game award and not a season award
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Mcfadden says hi
Yeh when you look at Mcfaddens numbers and melvin gordons and realize they didnt win it but then Ingram did you kinda shake your head
The biggest reason Ingram won it was because he was the best player on the best team in the nation. He wasn't the best player in CFB. McFadden and Gorden weren't on undefeated teams, if they were they would've won it too. LF will for sure be invited but his chances of winning it dropped quite a bit because of his performance/LSU's loss. The Heisman doesn't always go to the best player even though it's supposed too. Due to this, Clemson's Watson and Henry, as of right now, seem to have a better chance of winning it.
Why are so many you desperate if LF wins it or not? The award is extremely overrated and most of the players are NFL busts.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:17 pm to bmy
quote:But look at the flow of the games and be fair. There were games where Bama and Kiffin completely neutered Henry by not giving him carries. Backs like him and LF thrive on carries 15-25 more than anything
you realize he has more carries than LF7 right?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:19 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Henry, as of right now, seem to have a better chance of winning
Until Henry is kept below 100 yards rushing for the 4th time of the season i'm sure.
That 2009 Bama team had Julio Jones and Rolando McClain.. both far better players than Ingram btw. It's one thing to snub a back like Gerhart because he played in the Pac10... I find it hard to believe that the heisman could go to the 3rd best SEC running back, though. Chubb is hurt so he's out obviously. Schedules are too similar.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:20 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:I agree with everything you posted except this. According to the majority of books, LF still has the greatest chance. I think this Saturday is huge. If LF has 150+ against a great arky run D, the trophy will be his. If he gets contained for under 100, I think Henry becomes the clear favorite
Due to this, Clemson's Watson and Henry, as of right now, seem to have a better chance of winning it.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:22 pm to texag7
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Over 300 yards. Far cry from a measly 30
3 turnovers 0 TD
56 passes to get to 273 yards
also pretty meh Vs Florida that year.
He won because no one else was worthy and he had crazy stats.
Not because he won big games
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