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re: It seems like LSU and Bama switched places this year
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:19 pm to Nuts4LSU
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:19 pm to Nuts4LSU
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LSU didn't jump to #1 after beating Oregon last year. LSU didn't move up to #1 until after the 4th game of the season and our third convincing win away from home against a nationally ranked opponent.
Alabama has more people sucking their dick though. Plus, we're going to beat Michigan by a lot more than you beat Oregon.
Hell, we may be number 1 in the AP going in.
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:20 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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I knew you would lost last year in the NC, the same way I know Bama is going to beat LSU on the road this year.
Nah, not this time bro. We gonna roll on this one
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:21 pm to LSUNV
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Nah, not this time bro.
Fair, but...
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We gonna roll on this one
based on? Countless times I've stated why I think Bama will win, and I haven't had one LSU fan give me a true, full answer, as to why they think they'll beat Bama other than the game is in TS at night.
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So? You won in BDS at night, what makes people think Bama can't win at TS at night, when AJ plays well in tough environments.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:38 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
The long and skinny of it, they were showed up on the biggest stage in Football. At least for me, this would absolutely drive me crazy.
We have a QB who is an upgrade from the Dynamic duo we had last year. We lose the running ability of JJ, but gain more experienced RB.
Your Oline will keep our Dline in check for most of the game. Our LB will be roaming and looking for the ball. What's surprising to me is that I have not heard anybody talk about our new secondary coach.Our new secondary coach has some exotic blitz packages similar to Saban which is something we lacked last year. I believe him and the chief will come up with a game plan to keep McCarron guessing.
We have a QB who is an upgrade from the Dynamic duo we had last year. We lose the running ability of JJ, but gain more experienced RB.
Your Oline will keep our Dline in check for most of the game. Our LB will be roaming and looking for the ball. What's surprising to me is that I have not heard anybody talk about our new secondary coach.Our new secondary coach has some exotic blitz packages similar to Saban which is something we lacked last year. I believe him and the chief will come up with a game plan to keep McCarron guessing.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:45 pm to LSUNV
So you think AJ hasn't seen an exotic blitz package or two in practice against Saban's defense.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:46 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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and I haven't had one LSU fan give me a true, full answer, as to why they think they'll beat Bama other than the game is in TS at night.
I find this very difficult to believe.
Well, going out on a limb here, the possibility of having an actual QB could be a game changer, especially considering the previous one, whose specialty was the sort field option, won 2 of 4. Call me crazy though.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:51 pm to LSUNV
Well (not trying to argue or anything, just trying to throw a few facts out there) how will LSU stop our offense?
Your secondary is weaker than it was, though still very stout. Mathieu, Reid, and Simon are better than they were a year ago, but you lost Mo, Taylor, and Brooks. We have more talent at WR this year, plus Hart/Yeldon out of the back field against your LBs. I'm sure we won't beat you by passing, but what is going to make AJ do worse? The crowd noise? He did fine at other venues that are almost just as rowdy as TS at night, and he's going to have mor experience under his belt and the best OL in the country lining up to protect him.
How will you stop the run? You have an amazing DL. I mean, it is scary how good it is. But our OL cancels that out for the most part (plus Michawl Williams, arguably the best run blocking TE in the country.) and we have four guys who can carry it. Can you stop the run with 7? I'm sure you can, but can you hold us low enough?
And so I don't have to be asked later.
We'll stop the pass because Mett (I'm sure this will change, but it may not) struggles with shorter passes, and we have a very, very good group of LBs in pass coverage to stop shrot throws. We'll make Mett go deep, and can he against Lester and Milliner? (Now, I know what you're thinking. I just asked can LSU's secondary, which is arguably better than Bama's, stop AJ. However, AJ has proven he can throw against a better secondary than what he'll face on 11/3.)
Now, LSU didn't run on us last year without the option. Like, at all. I can go get the stats to show it. Your OL improves yes, but our DL improves as well. Your RBs improve, but while we lose Hightower and Upshaw we have Nico, CJ, Trey, and company at LB. We are actually faster at LB than we were, which means they'll get to the ball faster. Mett has to force us to play deep, because short throws and intermediate throws just won't happen often enough, nor win it if they do.
Again LSUNV, you're probably my favorite LSU poster, so if I came off like a dick my bad. I was just asking your opinion.
Your secondary is weaker than it was, though still very stout. Mathieu, Reid, and Simon are better than they were a year ago, but you lost Mo, Taylor, and Brooks. We have more talent at WR this year, plus Hart/Yeldon out of the back field against your LBs. I'm sure we won't beat you by passing, but what is going to make AJ do worse? The crowd noise? He did fine at other venues that are almost just as rowdy as TS at night, and he's going to have mor experience under his belt and the best OL in the country lining up to protect him.
How will you stop the run? You have an amazing DL. I mean, it is scary how good it is. But our OL cancels that out for the most part (plus Michawl Williams, arguably the best run blocking TE in the country.) and we have four guys who can carry it. Can you stop the run with 7? I'm sure you can, but can you hold us low enough?
And so I don't have to be asked later.
We'll stop the pass because Mett (I'm sure this will change, but it may not) struggles with shorter passes, and we have a very, very good group of LBs in pass coverage to stop shrot throws. We'll make Mett go deep, and can he against Lester and Milliner? (Now, I know what you're thinking. I just asked can LSU's secondary, which is arguably better than Bama's, stop AJ. However, AJ has proven he can throw against a better secondary than what he'll face on 11/3.)
Now, LSU didn't run on us last year without the option. Like, at all. I can go get the stats to show it. Your OL improves yes, but our DL improves as well. Your RBs improve, but while we lose Hightower and Upshaw we have Nico, CJ, Trey, and company at LB. We are actually faster at LB than we were, which means they'll get to the ball faster. Mett has to force us to play deep, because short throws and intermediate throws just won't happen often enough, nor win it if they do.
Again LSUNV, you're probably my favorite LSU poster, so if I came off like a dick my bad. I was just asking your opinion.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:53 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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find this very difficult to believe
Well...a lot of rantards here. You're another LSU poster who I know would provide valid reasoning.
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Well, going out on a limb here, the possibility of having an actual QB could be a game changer, especially considering the previous one, whose specialty was the sort field option, won 2 of 4. Call me crazy though.
To be fair, beating our 2010 D, while it was good, is no feat. They shite the bed against Stephen Garcia. And in 2011...it isn't an excuse, it really isn't, but Nick Saban should have learned to punt it, and he also should have put more effort into preparing for JJ. No excuses though, someone is at fault for not doing the right things to prepare, and for saying "lol lez kick long FGs guise."
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:10 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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but Nick Saban should have learned to punt it,
I always thought he was just trying to do what he could to win, just didn't work out.
I suppose my main point is that preparing for a team that runs, and preparing for a team that runs and throws, are two different things. If LSU isn't going 3&out continuously is UA kicking 5 FG's (and yes a TD was scored when the venture was over)? Just holding onto the ball longer makes a difference. I realize it's been quite a while since LSU has had an actual QB so I have a feeling a lot of these perceptions will get cured. We'll see.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:11 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
11/3 just needs to hurry up tbh.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:13 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
It's all good.
We lost some good players last year for sure, but to say our secondary is weaker is completely unfounded. Simon will be as good as Mo, I have zero doubt about that. I actually think we get stronger with addition of Jalen Mills. Dude is going to be scary good. Not to mention Dwayne Thomas will be an Upgrade from Taylor.
As far as stopping the run, I could twist what you said completely around in favor of LSU. You may stop our Dline for a while but you won't stop them all night. Too much depth.
Our Linebackers will be better than any group we have had for the last several seasons. We have some amazing young talent.
As far as receivers, if nothing I say evenly closely causes doubt, I will promise you this. By the time we play Alabama people will be saying how much talent we have. Patrick Petersons little brother is going to be a monster. Boone will emerge as a big threat. Dural will be a steady target.
What I am saying is the fact we lost those guys actually made us stronger. I have no doubt that we will stop the run, maybe with exotic schemes or LB rovers. Our LB our much better this year on coverage schemes. Either way we will be fine.
I kinda like you too
We lost some good players last year for sure, but to say our secondary is weaker is completely unfounded. Simon will be as good as Mo, I have zero doubt about that. I actually think we get stronger with addition of Jalen Mills. Dude is going to be scary good. Not to mention Dwayne Thomas will be an Upgrade from Taylor.
As far as stopping the run, I could twist what you said completely around in favor of LSU. You may stop our Dline for a while but you won't stop them all night. Too much depth.
Our Linebackers will be better than any group we have had for the last several seasons. We have some amazing young talent.
As far as receivers, if nothing I say evenly closely causes doubt, I will promise you this. By the time we play Alabama people will be saying how much talent we have. Patrick Petersons little brother is going to be a monster. Boone will emerge as a big threat. Dural will be a steady target.
What I am saying is the fact we lost those guys actually made us stronger. I have no doubt that we will stop the run, maybe with exotic schemes or LB rovers. Our LB our much better this year on coverage schemes. Either way we will be fine.
I kinda like you too
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:15 pm to ACL11190
quote:So Alabama is playing in Tiger Stadium this year and LSU is playing Bryant-Denny?
It seems like LSU and Bama switched places this year
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:15 pm to LSUNV
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What I am saying is the fact we lost those guys actually made us stronger
A few of us were saying 2011 D might be better than 2010 and were right. A few of us are saying 2012 D might be better than 2011 D and I think we will be right. Especially statistically if we get more consistency from the O.
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:17 pm to LSUNV
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We lost some good players last year for sure, but to say our secondary is weaker is completely unfounded. Simon will be as good as Mo, I have zero doubt about that. I actually think we get stronger with addition of Jalen Mills. Dude is going to be scary good. Not to mention Dwayne Thomas will be an Upgrade from Taylor.
I think Simon is very, very good. But as good as Mo...that is a stretch now. I wouldn't say your secondary is stronger, nor is it the same. It's definitely weaker (as is ours), but it isn't a MAJOR drop off or anything.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:19 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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A few of us were saying 2011 D might be better than 2010 and were right. A few of us are saying 2012 D might be better than 2011 D and I think we will be right. Especially statistically if we get more consistency from the O.
This is going to sound different than what I'm trying to say, but we return the same number of guys, so how come Bama can't claim to have a better defense? Of course we won't have a better defense, at least not in terms of passing D, but I mean c'mon now.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:20 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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so how come Bama can't claim to have a better defense?
Probably because the 2011 UA D may have been the GOAT. Who knows though, it might be better.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:23 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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I think Simon is very, very good. But as good as Mo...that is a stretch now. I wouldn't say your secondary is stronger, nor is it the same. It's definitely weaker (as is ours), but it isn't a MAJOR drop off or anything.
If you remember correctly people said the same thing about mo after PP. Mo turned out better than PP on coverages. Simon has a nose for the football. Who knows how it plays out, but I like this defense better than last years. I think we have a huge upgrade with the loss of Taylor. I think we statistically will have better numbers this year.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:23 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Probably because the 2011 UA D may have been the GOAT
That is about what I've decided on. It's hard to be better than the best. I think our Run D may potentially be better, but the hard headed Rantards will argue tooth and nail about it. Our pass D will drop off, but by all intents and purposes we could have a more talented secondary, just a less expereinced one. Milliner/Lester got better, Belue/Dixon are both > Menzie imo, and Sunseri isn't a beastly Safety that is going to make you regret throwing it deep, but HaHa, who at practice today played as the Nickelback while Belue was at OCB, is just an athlete with experience under his belt.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:25 pm to LSUNV
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I think we statistically will have better numbers this year.
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:26 pm to LSUNV
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If you remember correctly people said the same thing about mo after PP. Mo turned out better than PP on coverages. Simon has a nose for the football. Who knows how it plays out, but I like this defense better than last years. I think we have a huge upgrade with the loss of Taylor. I think we statistically will have better numbers this year.
True. I think Simon is going to be a hard hitting lockdown CB, but for comparison :
Simon gave up 3 (may have been 4, IDR) completions in the BCSCG...Mo didn't give up one. Though Simon is a better player than he was in January.
Just wanna randomly point out that Lester only had 2 INTs last year, but he dropped at least 4. If he doesn't drop them this year...
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