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re: Is two Football Championships in a row, considered a Dynasty?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:41 pm to diddlydawg7
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:41 pm to diddlydawg7
Why not 2003 to 2011 LSU, if you're handing them out?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:42 pm to diddlydawg7
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2002-present Ohio State
There we go.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:42 pm to fr33manator
when the playoffs expand do you guys NOT see the dawgs in it, like every year the way kirby is recruiting/coaching?
they lock it up tonight the dynasty is gonna be looking really good.
they lock it up tonight the dynasty is gonna be looking really good.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:44 pm to Toroballistic
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A team with no Natty's in the 2000s was a dynasty? May I ask why?
USC won a BCS National Championship in 2004 and lost it in 2005 on the last play of the game (Texas). Was enroute to go back again in 2006 and got upset by UCLA.
Seven straight BCS bowl games, had a 82-9 run at one point. Had 33 straight weeks as No. 1, never finished lower than 4th in the AP.
Again, I'm not arguing for it, just saying it could be argued.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:45 pm to BigDaddyDawg
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when the playoffs expand do you guys NOT see the dawgs in it, like every year the way kirby is recruiting/coaching?
I think the criteria of simply making the playoffs keeping you in the dynasty talks (depending on how many playoff teams we end up expanding to) will probably change. Let's say we end up with 12 playoff teams when we're done expanding. I don't think a CFP appearance alone keeps you in that conversation. Right now with it being 4, it's a whole lot more difficult to get in
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:47 pm to fr33manator
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Saban created the only true current dynasty in collage Football.
This
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Thankfully it will soon be over
And this.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:47 pm to lsufball19
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In fairness, that was only true when a Big 10 or Pac 10 team was one of those two teams because the Rose Bowl refused to be part of the Bowl Alliance or Bowl Coalition. The remaining big bowls and conferences had an agreement to pit the #1 and #2 team against one another.
1992: #1 Miami faced #2 Alabama
1993: #1 FSU faced #2 Nebraska
1994: #1 Nebraska faced #3 Miami (#2 was Penn St, they won the Rose Bowl))
1995: #1 Nebraska faced #2 Florida
1996: #1 FSU faced #3 Florida (#2 was Arizona St, they lost the Rose Bowl)
1997: #2 Nebraska faced #3 Tennessee (#1 was Michigan, they won the Rose Bowl)
Even in your time frame, that is 3 of 6 where 1 and 2 did not play. And I think I clearly said the AP/UPI poll era which goes back with respect to the AP, till 1936 (UPI-Coaches first appeared in 1950).
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:48 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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In other words, the standard is Alabama.
Then there has never been another dynasty. So, that is a silly argument.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:48 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
I just call back to back titles "Something LSU will never do"
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:50 pm to paperwasp
Don't forget USC's fake championship in 2003. But if you can argue for USC from 2003 to 2007, why can't you argue for LSU from 2003 to 2011? Won 2 championships in four years and played for a 3rd in year 8. Maybe too inconsistent in the between years?
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:52 pm to BFANLC
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think we all know it when we see it. To me it's ships plus consistency. This isn't a dig at lsu but if lsu had been more consistent then they could be in the conversation. They have the titles just needed to be there (playoffs,bcs) more often.
Seriously, LSU during that period is the closest one team can get to being a dynasty without passing the smell test.
Truly a great period for LSU football.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:53 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Maybe too inconsistent in the between years?
I'd say that's the knock.
FSU only had one NC during it's historic run, yet they still get the dynasty label.
But, they consistently finished Top 5.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:55 pm to lsufball19
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The media really wanted that 2005 title to happen. Not sure if y'all remember, but every week they compared USC 2005 to a different all-time great team and discussed if USC was better than them. It was nauseating and so satisfying watching Texas beat them
The media machine behind USC was nauseating and that Texas win was pretty amazing. Also, if you would have told me then, that three years later Bama would start a run that would last more than twice the length of USC's, I probably would have died from laughter.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:55 pm to Cheer
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FSU only had one NC during it's historic run, yet they still get the dynasty label.
They had two '93 & '99. Still your point stands.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:56 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Thankfully it will soon be over
Nick Saban was at LSU for roughly one complete class, and the two coaches that followed him won national championships — and this was following the Arnsparger/Archer/Hallman years.
Why does everyone assume that things will suddenly come to some crashing halt when Saban leaves?
Saban just now passed Bryant's total number of championships. It's not like he's the only coach to ever win there.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:56 pm to Cheer
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LSU during that period is the closest one team can get to being a dynasty without passing the smell test.
Well said.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:58 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Fair point, but I think they were around midfield IIRC.
We also had an open guy near the first down target. I think that's where Tua planned to go if the safety didn't track his eyes and stuck with our deep route.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:59 pm to paperwasp
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Why does everyone assume that things will suddenly come to some crashing halt when Saban leaves?

Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:01 pm to paperwasp
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Why does everyone assume that things will suddenly come to some crashing halt when Saban leaves?
I don't think anyone sane thinks it will come to a crashing halt, but I think it would be very difficult for any coach to come in and keep the thing going with the level of success Saban has had. That's not even a slight against Alabama. It's just noting that what Saban has done is basically unprecedented and not likely to be replicated. Same thing happened in the years following Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden, Tom Osborne, Woody Hayes, Barry Switzer, etc.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:03 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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why can't you argue for LSU from 2003 to 2011?
It was a great run, no doubt.
I think you probably could feasibly argue that, but like lsufball19 said, Clemson had a similarly successful run and we don't really consider it as one.
I really can't answer why this is the case, but it's certainly an interesting question.
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