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re: Is the SEC West really a tough division?

Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14198 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:30 pm to
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Right because playing Florida during the Spurrier and Meyer years was a complete cakewalk.
So everyone has to suck for UGA to be good? Got it.
Posted by ZeusStamos
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1567 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:32 pm to
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So everyone has to suck for UGA to be good? Got it.


What's your record against us the last ten years?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:33 pm to
Jimbo will win the division multiple times during his 10 year contract at A&M.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39976 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:34 pm to
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After 2011 the division has basically been Bama and everybody else. That 2013 run that Auburn went on was a complete fluke.




Just like UGA in 2017


This doesn’t make a lick of sense.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
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What happened when Auburn played A&M ? I forget


You tell me. They have yet to beat A&M at Jordan Hare, which is the location of the 2018 matchup.

2012: Texas A&M 63, @ Auburn 21
2014: Texas A&M 41, @ Auburn 38
2016: Texas A&M 39, @ Auburn 16
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14198 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:46 pm to
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What's your record against us the last ten years?
Whats UGA accomplished in the last 10 years with a good record against Auburn and the East in the dump? Or is a good record against Auburn all that UGA football strives for?

I can tell you Auburn has been to as many SECGC from the West and won twice as many as UGA in that time frame. As well as 2 NC appearances and a NC.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:49 pm to
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Jimbo will win the division multiple times during his 10 year contract at A&M.


Oh man this disappointment is going to be so fun to watch unfold.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73327 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Seriously in the next decade from 2018-2028 will anyone other than AU/LSU/ or Bama win it?


That’s just dumb. Look at the division from 1997- 2006. Things can change quickly with bad coaching hires.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73327 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Jimbo will win the division multiple times during his 10 year contract at A&M.



Putting up co-championship banners?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:51 pm to
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After 2011 the division has basically been Bama and everybody else.


Actually very untrue.

Alabama didn't have an SEC West Undefeated record in: 2012 (Texas A&M), 2013 (Auburn won the SEC), 2014 (Ole Miss), 2015 (Ole Miss), 2016 (Only SEC West undefeated record), Auburn won again in 2017.

It's not like, say, the East where you can be asleep at the wheel and go undefeated because it's really bad.

In fact, Jim McElwain had an East Sweep in 2015, Alabama hasn't swept the West more than once since 2011, and won it 4 out of the 6 years. Far from a one horse race.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30925 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:53 pm to
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Or is a good record against Auburn all that UGA football strives for?


Says the guy whose fellow Auburn fans seem to hang the main accomplishment of their coach on the fact that he's the only SEC coach to have Beaten Saban twice.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Oh man this disappointment is going to be so fun to watch unfold.


If Gus Malzahn can win the West multiple times, surely you realize Jimbo will. Chad Morris will get Arkansas to a Kevin Sumlin level, which is a little bit above your potential, so I don't get why that upsets you.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73327 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:57 pm to
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If Gus Malzahn can win the West multiple times, surely you realize Jimbo will.


Jimbo didn’t make a deal with a Haitian voodo witch, did he?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30925 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Alabama hasn't swept the West more than once since 2011, and won it 4 out of the 6 years. Far from a one horse race.
Didn't Alabama actually TIE for the division title the other 2 years, but lost the tie breaker?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39976 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Actually very untrue.


We found out last night that there have only been 3 top 10 teams in the west not named Bama in the past 5 seasons, and 2 of them were borderline at 10th, so it’s a reasonable statement to make.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Didn't Alabama actually TIE for the division title the other 2 years, but lost the tie breaker?


Indeed, and of course the metric is "after" 2011 to make sure not to include LSU in there.

Dominant performance from Alabama, but only one year in the last 6 that has a sweep in the West.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:03 pm to
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If Gus Malzahn can win the West multiple times, surely you realize Jimbo will.


Gus Malzahn is at Auburn, not Texas A&M. Jimbo will match Kevin Sumlin's run of greatness


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Chad Morris will get Arkansas to a Kevin Sumlin level, which is a little bit above your potential, so I don't get why that upsets you.


Speaking of potential, Arkansas actually has won the west, multiple times in fact. Texas A&M?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39976 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:08 pm to
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course the metric is "after" 2011 to make sure not to include LSU in there.


Of course it makes plenty of sense to acknowledge the dropoff of lsu in regards to difficulty of the west.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39976 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:09 am to
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Georgia could only win when the East is down, but let's count their's right?



2012
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5717 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:04 pm to
SECw had 4 teams ranked for CFP.
4. Alabama
7. Auburn
17. LSU
23. Mississip State

More than any other division. SEC tied with 5 as the most.

Here's where it gets good. 7 Auburn beat 4 Alabama. 17 LSU beat 7 Auburn. 23 Mississipi State beat 17 LSU.

More competition than most. The bottom 3/7 are not guaranteed wins either.
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