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re: Is State's RPI too low for them to be legit host contenders?

Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:55 am to
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:55 am to
oh lsu's resume was certainly good enough. that's not even debatable. hell it was better than 1/3 of the field.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5780 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:00 am to
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If MSU goes 5-1 over the next two weekends, that would put them at 17-13 in conference play. To me that is a host-able record. However, they do need to win at least one if not two games in Hoover to solidify that host spot.


You have to look at what the others in the conference are doing. The SEC is only going to get 3 or 4 (at most) host sites. LSU and USCe are virtual certainties and are both fighting for a Top 8 seed. UK is sitting there with 15 wins and if they go 3-3 the last two weekends, then they have 18 wins. UF is sitting there with 14 wins. If they go 3-3, they are at 17 wins.

So......again, how is State in a good position to host (even if they do go 5-1) with 4 others clearly ahead?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26732 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:01 am to
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2011 LSU- 13-17...thats not good enough


36-20 with an RPI of 23 doesnt matter?

In that case, we should just start scheduling terrible OOC teams like we did this year, and focus on winning only SEC games.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5780 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:09 am to
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In that case, we should just start scheduling terrible OOC teams like we did this year, and focus on winning only SEC games.


Of course, that should be LSU's gameplan every year. LSU swept Cal-Fullerton last year, but that series and our RPI was meaningless. It was all about conference record. The rest of the SEC West wasn't much better than LSU was last year with Arky at a division best record of 15-15. So, clearly, the only factor that mattered in getting into the NCAA tournament was conference record. RPI was not a factor and neither was sweeping Cal-Fullerton earlier in the year.

Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:11 am to
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36-20 with an RPI of 23 doesnt matter?

In that case, we should just start scheduling terrible OOC teams like we did this year, and focus on winning only SEC games.



that's what State did this season- and if we get 2 more SEC wins we are a lock for a Regional- so maybe you should. Being in the SEC is all the RPI you need
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:40 pm to
SEC will get 5 host sites this year 4 top teams plus Arky or Ole Miss depending on who finishes stronger

3 National seeds between the 4 top teams

8 tourney bids unless we finish 0-6 (which is possible, though very unlikely) or Vandy sneaks in above .500 (which is unlikely)

And LSU got fricked last year, no two ways about it. The way the committee has been trending is fricking retarded, but that is another topic.
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 12:51 pm to
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And LSU got fricked last year, no two ways about it. The way the committee has been trending is fricking retarded, but that is another topic.


Werd.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5780 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:01 pm to
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SEC will get 5 host sites this year 4 top teams plus Arky or Ole Miss depending on who finishes stronger


You "hope" the SEC gets 5 host sites. Why do you think so? The SEC hasn't in the past. The last 5 years, the SEC has had 3 host sites 3 times and 4 host sites twice. Year in and year out, we have the best conference. So, what makes this year any different from all the other years?
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:02 pm to
If Arkansas can get above .500 in SEC play, they will get a host spot. Their RPI is crazy good.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:07 pm to
Arky should already be hosting with the resume they have, but the committee has refused so far to give us 5 hosting bids.

But with Arky's remaining schedule I don't see any way that they could be denied a hosting spot. Unless the committee pulls a bush league stunt and gives them a 1 seed and lets a lesser team host.

Ole Miss finished with a very favorable schedule as well that should vault them into a position to host should someone else falter.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:23 pm to
LSU didn't get in because they missed the conference tournament. Over the past 4-5 years, the NCAA committee has quit letting SEC teams in that miss the tourney, fairly or unfairly. I agree that LSU got absolutely hosed last year, and that's why we expanded the conference tournament this year. They won't be able to use that against us this go round.

I agree that the SEC only gets 4 host bids. Our only real hope is that Kentucky falls completely apart(like they are well on their way to doing) and we can sneak into the 4th spot. If we can win the last two series(Fla on the road and KY at home), we have to at least be in the conversation.

And on attendance, the last time a postseason series was played at MSU, we had 12,620 and 13,715 for a 2 game total of 26,381, for the single-game and two-game series postseason NCAA records. Would've been well over 30,000 had we not gotten fire marshalled on Saturday and the overflow diverted to the HUMP to watch it on projectors. OM had 29,646 over 3 days for their Virginia regional(all time NCAA regional attendance record). Had Clemson extended us to a third game, we would have been knocking on the door for 40,000...
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23877 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 2:18 pm to
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Would've been well over 30,000 had we not gotten fire marshalled on Saturday and the overflow diverted to the HUMP


I was there that day and have never heard this.
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11986 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 3:01 pm to
Same here. However, I know they quit letting people in.
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23877 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 3:02 pm to
So we can't try to break our records anymore because it's a fire hazard to stand behind a fence out in the open?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36328 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 3:15 pm to
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So we can't try to break our records anymore because it's a fire hazard to stand behind a fence out in the open?


:kige:
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/9/12 at 3:17 pm to
Apparently it is...

I may have just assumed that fire marshalling was why they quit letting people in, I don't know that I ever got any real evidence there, but it was the only reasonable thing I could think of.

I do know for a fact that I knew quite a few people that drove from Jackson and were not allowed to enter the game and were sent to the HUMP to watch it. They told me that there was a BUNCH of people there in the hump too, possibly as many as 2500...
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